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Topic: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project. (Read 61923 times)
beko1987
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
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June 13, 2015, 09:31:24 am »
Aah i see. I wouldnt sleeep at night knowing hermes had it!
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June 13, 2015, 09:35:37 am »
If the brushroll is wooden, then (in theory) it would be possible to rebuild one by hand, assuming that you can borrow one to copy from?
Given the limited production run, perhaps they never tooled up to make some of the parts en masse?
I'd think the soleplate would be a bigger problem to replicate, unless it's cloned from another machine?
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June 13, 2015, 10:56:01 am »
Theres a company in america that make pattern brushroll,s, they post on vacuumland, cwp is it? As long as the ends can be replicated any old wooden brushroll with not too stiff bristles so as not to strain the motor may work.
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June 14, 2015, 01:18:25 pm »
These guys?
http://www.cwptechnologies.com/index.php/cwp-product-lines/cwp-brushrolls
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June 14, 2015, 05:12:05 pm »
OK fellas. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is so special about these things and what has it got to do with Dysons?
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beko1987
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June 14, 2015, 05:25:46 pm »
This is the first ever machine build to Jame's scrapbook drawings. Before it all took off, before it became viable. As said, it's licensed to another company for the build and sell, and then a few years passed and Dyson as we know them today was born!
That does make finding stuff for this even more tricky than normal though...
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June 16, 2015, 06:54:54 am »
I did strip the Cyclon to reseal the fan case. I should have made a note of the motor type at the time. It is certainly a physically large motor and was wrapped in foam like one from a DC02. The foam had become brittle and powdery so I had to re-assemble without it. You can hear it running on my YouTube video - "The First Dyson". It isn't that noisy. As somebody has deduced from my other video the bottom part is complete apart from the brush roll and belt. You are lucky that the wand release seems to be intact because mine is broken/missing and they are very fragile. You may be able to shorten the main hose and re-attach it to the cuff depending on where it is split and if the cuff (lilac) is present. Otherwise your Cyclon looks in promising condition!
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June 16, 2015, 11:25:19 am »
If it's the same foam sound deadening as Hoover or Electrolux used in the 80's it'll be perished to hell, and be sucked up the vac when you clean it out.
You may get away with the foam that comes around a DC02 motor or similar maybe? All depends on the size
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
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June 21, 2015, 11:37:41 pm »
The machine arrived before the weekend. I haven't seen it yet as I have been away for a few days. Pics of it in "as it arrived" condition will follow. Followed by some strip down pics.
Something I did find out though meanwhile, Bendini's above has a wooden brushroll. A bloke on another site, a collector, has one in the US (presumably imported from the UK), and his has a plastic brushroll.
So it seems there may have been differences between the models sold assuming both are unmolested.
As we have a good relationship with Quаltex, I am hopeful that they will let me snoop about their Manchester warehouse with the brushroll housing in hand. They have probably more brushrolls from different machines in one place than anywhere in the UK, so if I will find something compatible anywhere, it will be there.
Meanwhile, does anyone know anything about old Zanussi vacuum cleaners? They assembled these and perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
But first we need to find out if this machine is salvageable..........
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June 22, 2015, 09:12:30 am »
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June 22, 2015, 04:56:11 pm »
It seems UPS mistreated it in transit (something we are seeing more and more with UPS now) and some small bits appear to have been broken in transit.
However, we decided to make a start and have a look at it.
Time to take it to bits.
Out comes the motor.
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June 22, 2015, 05:01:41 pm »
So this is what the motor looks like (no numbers at all on it that I can see). Not dissimilar to a DC01 Ametek motor. Anyone recognise that trademark stamped on there?
Unfortunately, it seemed to be seized solid.
However, a little persuasion unseized it, so time to see if it runs.
What else but the high tech method of crocodile clips on the leads, and a foot holding it to the floor while an assistant turns the power on.
It fired up and blew a cloud of dust out. First time it has ran in a decade.
This is running. You can just make out the tiny blue spark above, where the brushes meet the armature. The motor runs quite sweet and spark free. Sounds like a DC01 Ametek too.
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June 22, 2015, 05:14:58 pm »
Nice! A few drops of oil into the top bearing should make it a bit happier! You got a closer pic of the branding?
I can see the dc01 design in that motor housing!
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June 22, 2015, 05:17:59 pm »
As a piece of engineering, I cant say I am impressed now I have seen it in bits. The unfathomable wand lock mechanism seems a dire design, as does the hose routing, lack of filter (save a bit of gauze in the pipe) and the lack of soleplate. For me, it would have needed much improvement before it went into production. I am not surprised not many survive.
It is easy to see the design similarities between it and the DC01, but the DC01 is way better designed. This thing looks like what it essentially is: A prototype. Very
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Check out the big clunky power switch.
And all these crimped connections.
We fixed the long hose easy enough which was split, it has gone for washing with the next batch of back hoses.
Here is the wand and chassis stripped and ready to be washed.
And after lots of TFR, attention with a toothbrush and some pressure washing, it hasn't come out too bad.
All the small parts will be going through the dishwasher in due course, so that's it for now till the bits are clean and dry. We will pick it up again when we have a spare hour or two.
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June 22, 2015, 05:20:47 pm »
That power switch screams electrolux at me!
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