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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2015, 07:22:48 PM »
You got a closer pic of the branding?

I tweaked the photo above a bit.



Just raised marks, three lines one way, two the other. It does ring a bell, but I cannot place it.


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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2015, 07:42:12 PM »
Cool.  Ive posted it on the collectors Facebook page incase anyone knows! I have no idea tbh
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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2015, 07:54:24 PM »
Those markings clang a dirty big bell but I not sure why  :D

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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2015, 08:13:52 PM »
Even if she cant be made to work,  it looks like it will come up good enough for display!
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2015, 10:34:07 PM »
Those markings clang a dirty big bell but I not sure why  :D

Same here. In the mists of my mind I am thinking I saw that on a washing machine motor from the 80's.

Even if she cant be made to work,  it looks lile it will come up good enough for display!

Oh, it will work. It may take some non-original modifications, but I intend the end of this topic to be a quick video of Olga cleaning the floor with it.  :icon_nod:

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2015, 10:49:10 PM »
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Same here. In the mists of my mind I am thinking I saw that on a washing machine motor from the 80's.

It could be, I might have seen it on a Zanussi but I'm just not sure.

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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2015, 06:54:11 PM »
So what has been holding the job up is lack of a brushroll. After exhaustive inquiries, it seems nobody seems to know anything much about the brushrolls.

However, not to be defeated.........

As we have a good relationship with Quаltex, I am hopeful that they will let me snoop about their Manchester warehouse with the brushroll housing in hand. They have probably more brushrolls from different machines in one place than anywhere in the UK, so if I will find something compatible anywhere, it will be there.

Today I spent about two hours in the Quаltex warehouse. I came up with two possible solutions: The BRL29 is a long (too long) black wooden brushroll that is from a Kirby machine. It has no place on it for a belt to run though. But the end caps seem as close as dammit to what the Rotork ones must have looked like. The BRL45 is another wooden brushroll, this time from an Oreck. It has a metal wheel on the end for the belt to run on.

So here is where we are up to now. With a calculator and a tape measure out.......



I'm pretty confident that either Two BRL45's with the metal wheel moved and Kirby end caps, or the Kirby brushroll, shortened, with the Oreck wheel slottled in there will solve this. The latter would look more original.

Either way, it will involve a cut and shut of more than one brushroll, involving I suspect, a bit of a Dyson axle inserted into drilled out holes to make the brushroll we need with the metal wheel roller in the right place.

I am quite optimistic.  :icon_nod:

The bristles will need to be trimmed back somehow on either as well.

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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2015, 06:56:56 PM »
Proper engineering,  love it!
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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2015, 08:20:26 PM »
Progress is slow, as and when I have chance at home, but progress is progress.........

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Drilled out BRL45 wheel heated up to expand it, cut down bit of Dyson DC01 axle tapped in, cooled off and that little axle isn't going anywhere.

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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2015, 10:21:10 PM »
After some measuring and drilling, we almost have a brushroll.......





So now it is clamped up and will stay like that for a couple of days to make sure the glue sets.

It may look a little Heath Robinson, but the body of the brushroll is straight when tested with a metal rule all around, and the wheel is central. The bit of brushroll below wedged in, and the carefully placed screwdriver are keeping it straight while it goes off. 

We'll see.......

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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2015, 10:23:33 PM »
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That looks brilliant! Whats the worse that could happen?

Could always lay the finished product in the cleaner and spin it fast by hand/some other power tool before commiting to possibly smashing the bottom of the machine up!
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2015, 10:57:44 PM »
Whats the worse that could happen?

I reckon the worst is that it may vibrate a little. But no worse than a bent non-clutched Dyson brushroll.

Could always lay the finished product in the cleaner and spin it fast by hand/some other power tool before commiting to possibly smashing the bottom of the machine up!

Yes, I plan to test it on a DC01 Ametek motor on the bench at the shop to see how it spins. I used No Nails down the holes as it fills gaps too. The three little holes in the wheel are also full of it. I think it will be rock solid when it goes off.

It isn't like the machine will be getting any hammer, its a showpiece really, but even as that, it should work.

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« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2015, 10:59:38 PM »
It should be fine, it's got strength all down the middle, and will be held either end by the end caps. Same principle as the air driven turbo brushes.

Failing that, DC25 brushroll motor and brushroll?

You do realise that a video of this and a DC01, with some dirt thrown down would be amazing, and interesting to see from a collector POV...

You could do a PR peice and do something with the newest upright you have in the shop and this...
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2015, 11:00:45 PM »
Could fit a worn belt to take some of the strain off? Or would a new, tensioned belt hold everything tru-er?
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Re: We Have a Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon Restoration Project.
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2015, 11:03:58 PM »
Could fit a worn belt to take some of the strain off? Or would a new, tensioned belt hold everything tru-er?

I have thought of this already, I think a belt that isn't too tight is the way to go.

Yes, there will be a short video when it comes back to life.

 

 

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