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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 12:12:19 PM »
Thanks!

It seems an odd machine, I've never seen one before, and it is similar to the other cyclones, but with lots of little differences, by the looks of it 'just because'

Were they not great sellers? I presume the DC19 etc were still being sold alongside it, presumably for alot less dough too
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 02:59:24 PM »
Dyson cylinders weren't as best selling as their uprights except the DC05 at the time and the modern ones

The Dc08 and DC19/20 were the best selling IMHO, they are everywhere!
DC14s are tanks, just need a slightly longer motor life. Do plastic parts often break on DC14s? Nope. DC41- Sexy looking futuristic and powerful machine. Just needs a better designed cleaner head wheel and cyclone clip along with a dense metal rod in the chassis.

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2016, 01:47:54 PM »
I'm about to order a new motor for a DC32-which I understand was the model number for the DC23 in Australia. How it got back here to the UK, I have no idea...
Anyway, can someone kindly advise what parts I need to remove to access the old motor, and the sequence? Beko's sequence is excellent for a full stripdown, but I'm hoping (optimistically) that I don't need to strip it down that far for a motor change, as it seems a right pain.
I've got the wheel and filter housing off and the HEPA filter out, so the motor assembly is visible-but not clear how I proceed from here? Thanks.
Also hoping that the fan assembly is OK so I can just order the bare motor and not the full Monty.

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2016, 01:52:31 PM »
The pictures aren't loading for me so I can't confirm, but I think you will have to have both wheels off, the switch housing to get the wires to the switch unplugged, then cord reel off, undo the screws under there and the motor bucket should slide out.

You need both wheels as IIRC the cord rewind sits under the 'other one', and under that are the motor housing screws
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2016, 02:01:38 PM »
Brilliant, thanks for that-I will report back when I've made some progress.
Amazing how different this is to any other Dyson cylinder model I've ever worked on-which admittedly isn't many.

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2016, 12:28:26 PM »
Update: manged to get the dead motor out and now awaiting the new one. The sequence is fairly logical, but I had a real struggle getting both the cable rewind out and then the fan housing-the spring clip on the top of the motor shaft was very tight.
Thanks once again Beko.

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2016, 12:31:21 PM »
Yes the spring clip is a sod,  I hate those kinds of clip
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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 07:42:28 PM »
Motor arrived today, all installed and working, no problem. But on reassembly, I find that the cable rewind has failed-it's turning freely (not being fouled by wires etc), it just won't retract automatically at all, so I assume the spring has either failed or become detached from it's mount.
My question is, how on earth do you dismantle this part to check? There are 3 clips on one side and 2 on the other, but releasing those does not allow the two halves to separate, it's still held in by the part that carries the wires down to the centre of the reel, which I can't see how to detach. I must be missing something obvious, but what?

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 10:17:50 PM »
You didn't lock it when you took it out and it has unravelled a bit.

Wind the cable around the reel a couple of times and refit, see if it improves. Rinse and repeat till it works. Don't overdo it or the spring will break.

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 10:22:51 PM »
Thanks. Do you mean, wind it on just a couple of turns, or wind it fully on twice? Rinse and repeat?

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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2016, 12:06:23 AM »
I have tried again,  but cannot seem to get any tension on the reel. Either I am doing this all wrong,  or the spring is already broken maybe.
I can't see any way to lock the reel on removal?

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2016, 10:21:58 PM »
I dont remember locking it, the brake should be applied at all times until the rewind button is pushed.

Did you hear any omonous twanging sounds from within?

It's a bit do or die, but pull the cord all the way out whilst holding the reel so it 'unwinds', then wind 5 turns on, then pull it gently out again. Keep going until either you feel it tighten up as you pull it, in which case it will be the spring as tensioned as it will go before it pulls itself out, then holding the  reel so it spins but you have hold of it, see if it'll reel the cable in. If it goes most of the way then stops, wind 5 turns on at that stage, pull it all out etc.

Or, halfway through the above, you will suddenly fee lall resistance go, hear a sickening sound as the spring detaches internally and unwinds itself, rendering the unit scrap.

If it is toast, strip it down and see what you find, ir might be fixable, I've had the internal spring destroy itself in stuff before and an hour of carful untangling later, with a few cut fingers and it's been OK. Just mind your eyes!
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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2016, 01:58:36 PM »
Thanks both for your advice. I've tried again this morning but having to admit defeat on this now. So I've emailed Claire to ask if by any chance you have a serviceable used cable rewind for a DC23/32? It's the same type as shown on your website listing.
Thanks once again.

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2016, 07:08:02 PM »
Thanks both for your advice. I've tried again this morning but having to admit defeat on this now. So I've emailed Claire to ask if by any chance you have a serviceable used cable rewind for a DC23/32? It's the same type as shown on your website listing.
Thanks once again.

Was too busy to look today but I'll get to that in the morning.  :tiphat:

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Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2016, 07:10:05 PM »
Thank you!

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