British made DC07

[grahamwin]

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Hello Dyson - fans how do you identify the earliest British made DC07 what are the colours , model markings and identification numbers of these early DC07 cleaners  does any one know?              hoping you can help grahamwin

[MVacs]

Parwaz is the man for this. I'll nudge him...... 

[Parwaz7862]

Hi!

From my experience I've noticed that usually it's the following:


-Light grey body means it's an early British made model because they used the "solid" plastic which was actually brittle and cracked easily

-If the post motor filter lid has *only* one tab to unlock, then it's an early model from the UK. Later models required you to pop open 3 tabs to remove the filter lid.

-The cyclone assembly has a rectangular exit hole with a rubber gasket around it- if it has no number next to it, it's an early cyclone assembly from the UK.

-If the base of the bin flap is all smooth with no deep crevices and plastic ribs sticking out it's an early UK type.

-The wand on the earliest models had the metal part quite slightly shinier compared to the later ones which just looked like a dull silver

-Check the pre motor filter housing- if it has no rubber ring but instead there's a foam seal on the black tip- it's from the UK. Early filters had no yellow tube on the filter

- If it says "DC07" on the cleaner head and with the Dyson logo being large and bold then it may also be a UK model. If it says DC07 on the motor housing or on the bin sticker and not on the head, then it's Malaysian. Later models had a smaller Dyson logo on the head like the DC33. However all DC14s have the same large bold Dyson logo

-If it has a reinforced cyclone assembly handle (springy double handle) it's a later type of handle, or cyclone or even vacuum

-The U bend on early models had a slightly larger release clip compared to later models and DC14s/33s

-Check the serial number- if it mentions Malaysia then it's made in Malaysia

-Look at the big rubber seal at the bottom of the cyclone assembly- does it look unusual compared to a normal Dc07? That's the very earliest type.

-Late models didn't say "Root 8 cyclone" on the front of the cyclone assembly

-A round grey plug indicates it's from an early UK model too although this could just either be original or from another DC07 just like any part is swappable on a Dyson.

That's all I can think of for now but I think that's it really

Hope this helps!

[Parwaz7862]

Parwaz is the man for this. I'll nudge him...... 

 

[grahamwin]

Thanks for this Pawaz7862 all very interesting, which in your opinion is the best of the DC07 models to own ? I still think the Dyson DC07s have the strongest cleaning suction of all the Dyson's that I have tried.   Grahamwin.

[Parwaz7862]

No problem. In my opinion the best DC07 to own is the later models (preferably one with the reinforced cyclone handle for increased durability and the number 2 on the back of the cyclone by the suction outlet) as this type of DC07 cyclone was the most effective. Also, the later DC07s have stronger plastic compared to the older brittle ones, they were signficantly improved in durability, so much so that nothing really even breaks on them! Dyson really learnt their lesson from their older machines.  They're like late DC14s, you don't really see anything physically break on them apart from a split hose.

All DC07s are the same mechanically really except the more premium models had (purple) HEPA  filters and brush control.

The basic non clutched models did however clean carpets better due to their round brushroll with 3 rows of bristles and soleplate design which seals in the suction.

The models with clutch leak some suction for edge cleaning and are easier to push. Their brushbars only have 2 rows of bristles and their clutches don't really provide as much torque as a belt being connected directly to the motor anyway like the non clutched models.

[grahamwin]

Hi Parwaz once thanks for the info re DC07 machines, but I do admit that the Dyson DC14 are nicer to use, but I still think that a DC07 although heavier has the stronger suction. Have you any preferences/recommendations on which are the best of the Dyson DC14 machines ?  Grahamwin

[Parwaz7862]

No worries.

I actually prefer the DC14, although I do love both models.

The DC14 has very close suction to a DC07, it's not really noticeable TBH. I like the later DC14s with the titanium body and red accents due to their durability. Those things are literally tanks!

The clutched DC14s have a large debris channel (which the DC07 lacks) so especially on hard floors you'll get excellent pickup with larger crumbs that a DC07 would push around. This also allows for better airflow and makes it easier to push.  Or you can just get a non clutched DC14 which is exactly the same as a DC07 without a clutch.

The DC07 and DC14 literally have no major differences apart from the DC14 being slightly lighter, having a more straightforward wand/hose setup and all the tools are on the vacuum which is easier for car cleaning whereas with the DC07 the crevice tool is on the wand.

The DC14 is the default Dyson I'd recommend and sell to anyone who just wants a Dyson.

[grahamwin]

Once again thanks PARWAZ  for your advice on the DC07 and DC14. I have owned Dc02, Dc05, DC11 and DC19 pull-along models, but I have never owned a Dyson DC08. I have been told that these are a very good machine to use and easy to work on. Have you any opinions/advice on these pull-along Dysons.    cheers  grahamwin

[Parwaz7862]

Once again thanks PARWAZ  for your advice on the DC07 and DC14. I have owned Dc02, Dc05, DC11 and DC19 pull-along models, but I have never owned a Dyson DC08. I have been told that these are a very good machine to use and easy to work on. Have you any opinions/advice on these pull-along Dysons.    cheers  grahamwin

Glad to be of help!

The DC08 and DC19 are extremely similar machines, the main differences are the tools really and colour.  Also, the  DC08 had 12 cyclones whereas the DC19 had 8.

Early DC19s with the clear cyclone handle had push fit tools like the DC08 but the T2 version had the click fit (dark grey handle to match the body).  The DC08 had 330 AW of suction whereas the DC19 had slightly less suction at 290AW (same as a DC14). You aren't missing out on not owning a DC08

I find the DC08 and DC19 to be quite bulky with their shape, same with the DC23 etc, I'm not really a cylinder fan TBH. I'm actually a massive upright fan.

The Dc02 would be decent but they haven't got powerful suction. Shame really because the design on them is nice and simple and they had potential.

The DC05 was a decent machine, I just hate the tool storage - on the hose.

The DC11 had good suction but the bin design was terrible- the suction path would split into two so very long hair would just get sucked up in the two airpaths where they split and the suction would be playing tug of war on the hair. Remove the cyclone and long strings and hair would need to be pulled out. These had the turbine head which was okay but they aren't as good as a proper good ol' Dyson upright 

Now...

One Dyson cylinder I do like though is the DC39- proper slim, so it's not cumbersome. It has the same suction as a DC19, yet it's much quieter and has better filtration too and it's more manageable. It doesn't get stuck in door frames either! They are known for getting clogged in the area just before the bin entry but only if you suck up large objects. I'd rather have a DC39 over any of Dyson's older machines. Apparently the new big ball cylinders are even better than the DC39, they even stand up on their own when they get knocked over!

I like how Dyson managed to make their machines not only look better by making them look more simple (like the DC41 looks more like a tidy design compared to the DC25) but it also means that there's less bulk on the outside of the vacuum, hence the DC19 vs the DC39- so win win.
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My only advice with these really is to just empty them when they're at the MAX fill line so the cyclone efficiency doesn't drop and just check the filter every few months, give it a good wash and you should be fine. The lack of this care means that the filter gets dustier which means the motor gets hotter due to getting less airflow, so the motor works harder and spins faster and therefore this decreases the lifespan of the motor

Dysons don't really lose suction when you fill them past the MAX fill line so people think they can get away with it when in reality the above ^ happens and then they wonder why their Dyson blew up after a few years of use. Just gotta maintain it really which isn't so hard 

[grahamwin]

Hi Parwaz - thanks for views on the Dyson cylinder cleaners. I have owned and worked on the Dyson DC04,DC07,DC14,DC18 uprights and even the Dc18 (my sons) with its alleged week undercarriage. This DC18 is ten years old and other than having regular filter maintenance has been a good performer . I must admit that I do have a high regard for the DC07 for strong build quality and suction power as you say the clutch-less types perform better for carpet cleaning, but I will admit the DC14 is a nicer machine and more user friendly.
What are your views on having filter pads with annual changes in the post motor position instead of HEPA ones on DC07 and DC14 cleaners ?
Just acquired a used DC50 for £50 and its small and performs alright but this lightweight machine is not in the class of a DC07 or DC14 when it comes to carpet cleaning.
                                Regards grahamwin

[Parwaz7862]

Annual filter changes are a good idea. The pad filters are decent enough unless you have allergies then you’d require a HEPA. It’s only HEPA if it has the foam seal around the bottom, otherwise you’re better off with a pad filter because at least they fill the whole perimeter of the filter housing and the lid closes tightly on it against the rim.

The DC50 is quite a weak machine, always prone to clogging. The later versions with the red slider on the front of the head were slightly better due to the more focused suction at the head but Dyson discontinued them for good now. They were nowhere near as reliable or powerful as the ERP DC40/41/55/75 and current light ball and ball animal 2.

[rabidmiffy]

Hi Parwaz,

I notice that the DC07 model numbers are also duplicated e.g. the Standard was originally serial numbers 090-UK and later 115-UK; the All Floors was 091-UK then 116-UK and 110-US for those over the pond.

Is this another indicator of country of manufacture, or was there another reason for this change?

Thanks,

David

[Parwaz7862]

Hi Parwaz,

I notice that the DC07 model numbers are also duplicated e.g. the Standard was originally serial numbers 090-UK and later 115-UK; the All Floors was 091-UK then 116-UK and 110-US for those over the pond.

Is this another indicator of country of manufacture, or was there another reason for this change?

Thanks,

David

Well spotted    The later standards use different plastic  and a slightly different colour compared to the early brittle ones so I suppose it could be due to making it easier to identify the different variants

[rabidmiffy]

Thanks Tayyab, still somewhat of a mystery then. Seems a big step for what was a design revision, unless it all changed at once e.g. by setting up a new supply chain in the far East when they moved production there.

David