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Title: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 08:58:59 pm
This came my way a few weeks ago now via my facebook repair page. Never had one before, so let's do this!

The main complaint was the turbo head did not spin. A quick test revealed that something did spin, but not the brushroll!

I cover the stripdown of this in more detail later, but basically you take the turbine housing

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split it all apart until you get to the fan

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which you will hopefully find cracked but not irrepairable, so glue it up

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refit and test! In this case, it was job jobbed. The fan wasnt too worn, and worked a treat. One message to the happy owner later to say it should work, but if it breaks again we can look at a replacement fan, we can crack on with the main event!

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Tools off

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First off the machine is the cyclone seal

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Removing the torx screw that sits just behind it releases the whole hose holder bit, and it slides/pulls off the machine (it's quite fiddly)

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:04:59 pm
Like so

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There is another screw sat underneath it now

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Which releases the hose wrap guide

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One last screw in here

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and the floor tool parking bracket comes away

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The rest of the assembly does look like it will split further, but I could not work out how to do it, and being a customers machine, and not one that I bought for a fiver, I left it alone to avoid damage!

Filter housing open now (hose and filters had already gone through the wash)

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The hinged cover pops off the pivot very easily. The wheel, not so, and it took rather alot of force to pop the wheel off (it came off with a loud crack too  but no damage)

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The airflow channel lives on the outside of a DC23, and 3 screws remove it's cover. If the rubber seal stays fixed to the cover, leave it on! It's a proper fiddly bastard to get back on, trust me!

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4 screws release the filter housing part from the main chassis

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:11:23 pm
The release valve sits in this part, twist the top cover and the whole lot flies/pops out depending on how your holding it!

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Sat under the pre motor filter cover is the post motor filter, which lifts out

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Very carbon dusty but not too bad

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That's about it for this side now, onto the other, and snap the other wheel off

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The next step seems to be to remove the outer shell. Lots of screws dotted about

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2 either side of the wheel holder

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The hose entry port also forms part of this

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and lifts off once unscrewed

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:15:40 pm
Once unscrewed, it lifts off the machine, although the cable is still running through it

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The cablue guide is held ont othe top shell with a screw

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and this clip here

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The rewind pedal fits on like any other Dyson cylinder

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This part is not removeable without un-wiring the cable from the reel, and sod that, so it gets left on!

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The front wheel pops off

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The power switch sits on a little stand, held on by a screw

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The cables running through it like so

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the red cap pops off, and the switch slides out

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:20:22 pm
The wires run through various channels, and the red one to the cord rewind loops down then back up (I took a pic during re-assembly)

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The cord reel is removed by pulling it out until the square peg clears the chassis, then lifts out

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The live and neutral connect to the reel like so, and need to be removed

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Done! Not touching it anymore

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Behind the cord reel sits the motor housing screws.

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These are machine screws

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Luckily there are cutouts in the main chassis to help with this

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With the last screw out, the motor housing falls out the other side

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and unscrews like so

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:26:24 pm
Once unpeeled, the fancase seal can be pulled off

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And the little cooling fan removed. The spring slip pops off, and the fan pulls off the keyed shaft. I've never seen thsi type of motor before, but since Mvacs list it under the DC23 spares section, it obviously exists!

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A lesson from Dyson in how to make a repair more expensive than it needs to be, the whole motor is physicaly the same size as a DC05/8/most other cylinders, but this little shaft makes it unique, and I don't know what will happen if you try to fit a non cooled one

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The empty chassis means we are done with the main machine

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So, it's out into the garden to deal with the cyclone assembly, which is a tad dusty...

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Bin off

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The red release rod pops out of the channel on the bin

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The bottom flap is removed from the bin

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:35:29 pm
The 2 rubber seals pull out of the bottom flap

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Onto the main cyclone now, and the first place to start is with screws

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Which reveals this

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which was a tad dusty

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The shroud pops off 4 very shallow clips

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The main shroud-cones seal is 2 parts, a palstic cage and a rubber gasket, which once you pop off every cyclone comes off

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Hidden deep inside the cyclone are some screws

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which releases both the inner cone and top cover

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The top part goes top cover, plastic cover, rubber gasket, cones

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:40:44 pm
The cones side of the gasket was filthy

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The middle part of the release rod sits in it's housing, ontop of a spring

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The park bracket for the tubes screws onto the side of the cyclone

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Finally, the bin seal is clipped over several lugs on the bottom of the cone assembly, and lifts out

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I went to remove the top handle, and found a screw to undo

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but no matter what I tried, it would not come off, and again, through fear of damaging it and needing to fork out for replacement parts, I left it alone!

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Turbo Brush Now

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Flip it over, and remove the base plate

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 09:54:53 pm
Twist and pull the brushrolls off the axles

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Undo all the screws you see at the top

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and remove the cover.

The pivoting part needs to be split now. One side of it pops out with a flatblade screwdriver

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The 2 halves seperate easily now. The rubber seal joins the turbine housing to the chassis, and the round hose is the internal hose for the turbo brush

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The machine is now apart! Everything was washed, polished, dried and dumped on the front room rug for re-assembly!

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We start with the cyclone, and the bin seal

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The seal has a unique part, that mates with this bit on the cyclone assembly

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then the rest fits fine

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 10:10:58 pm
Wand parking bracket back on

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Middle bin release rod back in

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The much cleaner cyclone gasket is pushed onto the cyclone top

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and fitted to the cyclone assembly

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The inner cone gets fitted now

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and with the top outer lid fitted, the whole lot screws up

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The white ring slots onto the cones

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and the rubber gasket sits ontop of that

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The outer cone screws on

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and the shroud sits on top of that
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 11:42:01 pm
Bottom flap seals back in

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Bin release rod back in

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Bin flap fitted, bin fitted and the cyclone is done!

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Motor next, and the cooling fan air ducting sits ontop of the motor, forming the top motor mount in the process

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Fit the fan and retaining clip

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Fit the fancase seal, and then fit the motor casing, taking care to route the motor wires through correctly

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The motor housing fits into the chassis one way, so fit it that way, and screw the screws in. Be careful though, I crossthreaded one very very easily!

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Release valve fitted back into its little house

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 11:48:51 pm
Drop the cord rewind into place

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Route the wires as needed and assemble the power switch bracket, and screw it down

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Fit the cable guide to the outer shell

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then fit the whole top shell to the lower chassis

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and pop the cord rewind side wheel on

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Drop the post motor filter into place

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and screw the filter housing down

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Refit the external air tube and seal

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and pop the pre motor filter cover on

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 11:53:46 pm
Fit the spotless pre motor filter

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and close the door, and fit the wheel

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Re-assemble the hose and tool holder (if you bothered to strip it at all) and fit it to the machine

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Fit the cyclone seal

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Fit the tools

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Fit the cyclone

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Turbo tool now!

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Place the internal hose into the chassis

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Clip the tool port end over the top, and clip it down

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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 13, 2016, 11:56:50 pm
Fit the rubber seal, and sit the turbine housing over the chassis

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Fit the clear top and screw it down

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Pop the brushrolls on

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Fit the baseplate

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and Done!

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The owner was very happy, I got paid, job jobbed! I hope this helps someone, it's quite different to other cylinder vacs really, even though it looks similar!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Parwaz7862 on July 14, 2016, 12:23:19 am
What can I say, your refurb is outstanding as usual ;D
The cyclone looks like a DC40/41 design except for a diff shroud! I never understood why the motor needed a cooling fan either  :boggleeye:
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on July 15, 2016, 10:12:19 am
Thanks!

It seems an odd machine, I've never seen one before, and it is similar to the other cyclones, but with lots of little differences, by the looks of it 'just because'

Were they not great sellers? I presume the DC19 etc were still being sold alongside it, presumably for alot less dough too
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Parwaz7862 on July 15, 2016, 12:59:24 pm
Dyson cylinders weren't as best selling as their uprights except the DC05 at the time and the modern ones

The Dc08 and DC19/20 were the best selling IMHO, they are everywhere!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 01, 2016, 11:47:54 am
I'm about to order a new motor for a DC32-which I understand was the model number for the DC23 in Australia. How it got back here to the UK, I have no idea...
Anyway, can someone kindly advise what parts I need to remove to access the old motor, and the sequence? Beko's sequence is excellent for a full stripdown, but I'm hoping (optimistically) that I don't need to strip it down that far for a motor change, as it seems a right pain.
I've got the wheel and filter housing off and the HEPA filter out, so the motor assembly is visible-but not clear how I proceed from here? Thanks.
Also hoping that the fan assembly is OK so I can just order the bare motor and not the full Monty.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on November 01, 2016, 11:52:31 am
The pictures aren't loading for me so I can't confirm, but I think you will have to have both wheels off, the switch housing to get the wires to the switch unplugged, then cord reel off, undo the screws under there and the motor bucket should slide out.

You need both wheels as IIRC the cord rewind sits under the 'other one', and under that are the motor housing screws
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 01, 2016, 12:01:38 pm
Brilliant, thanks for that-I will report back when I've made some progress.
Amazing how different this is to any other Dyson cylinder model I've ever worked on-which admittedly isn't many.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 03, 2016, 10:28:26 am
Update: manged to get the dead motor out and now awaiting the new one. The sequence is fairly logical, but I had a real struggle getting both the cable rewind out and then the fan housing-the spring clip on the top of the motor shaft was very tight.
Thanks once again Beko.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on November 03, 2016, 10:31:21 am
Yes the spring clip is a sod,  I hate those kinds of clip
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 05, 2016, 05:42:28 pm
Motor arrived today, all installed and working, no problem. But on reassembly, I find that the cable rewind has failed-it's turning freely (not being fouled by wires etc), it just won't retract automatically at all, so I assume the spring has either failed or become detached from it's mount.
My question is, how on earth do you dismantle this part to check? There are 3 clips on one side and 2 on the other, but releasing those does not allow the two halves to separate, it's still held in by the part that carries the wires down to the centre of the reel, which I can't see how to detach. I must be missing something obvious, but what?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MVacs on November 05, 2016, 08:17:50 pm
You didn't lock it when you took it out and it has unravelled a bit.

Wind the cable around the reel a couple of times and refit, see if it improves. Rinse and repeat till it works. Don't overdo it or the spring will break.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 05, 2016, 08:22:51 pm
Thanks. Do you mean, wind it on just a couple of turns, or wind it fully on twice? Rinse and repeat?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 05, 2016, 10:06:23 pm
I have tried again,  but cannot seem to get any tension on the reel. Either I am doing this all wrong,  or the spring is already broken maybe.
I can't see any way to lock the reel on removal?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on November 06, 2016, 08:21:58 pm
I dont remember locking it, the brake should be applied at all times until the rewind button is pushed.

Did you hear any omonous twanging sounds from within?

It's a bit do or die, but pull the cord all the way out whilst holding the reel so it 'unwinds', then wind 5 turns on, then pull it gently out again. Keep going until either you feel it tighten up as you pull it, in which case it will be the spring as tensioned as it will go before it pulls itself out, then holding the  reel so it spins but you have hold of it, see if it'll reel the cable in. If it goes most of the way then stops, wind 5 turns on at that stage, pull it all out etc.

Or, halfway through the above, you will suddenly fee lall resistance go, hear a sickening sound as the spring detaches internally and unwinds itself, rendering the unit scrap.

If it is toast, strip it down and see what you find, ir might be fixable, I've had the internal spring destroy itself in stuff before and an hour of carful untangling later, with a few cut fingers and it's been OK. Just mind your eyes!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 07, 2016, 11:58:36 am
Thanks both for your advice. I've tried again this morning but having to admit defeat on this now. So I've emailed Claire to ask if by any chance you have a serviceable used cable rewind for a DC23/32? It's the same type as shown on your website listing.
Thanks once again.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MVacs on November 07, 2016, 05:08:02 pm
Thanks both for your advice. I've tried again this morning but having to admit defeat on this now. So I've emailed Claire to ask if by any chance you have a serviceable used cable rewind for a DC23/32? It's the same type as shown on your website listing.
Thanks once again.

Was too busy to look today but I'll get to that in the morning.  :tiphat:
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: macman on November 07, 2016, 05:10:05 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Nats on September 05, 2017, 08:08:57 pm


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The bottom flap is removed from the bin


Hi beko1987, thank you so much for such an informative thread! I need to replace the bottom flap from the bin (trying to avoid paying for replacement of both), but since it's hard plastic I am worried about breaking that 'hinge' part. Would you mind sharing what you used to remove the flap? and is it easy to just press it back in? Thanks a million in advance.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on September 05, 2017, 08:22:37 pm
Hi Nats. Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

The trick to remove a bottom flap from a dyson bin is to hold the bin under your arm, bear hug it, try to break its neck sort of thing. Keep the hinge at the top. The flap has 2 lugs that sit in 2 holes on the bin, if you squeeze the bin fairly hard it pulls the holes apart slightly, enabling you to twist the bin flap up, one lug out and off it comes. Might be easier with it infront of you!

To replace it, pretty much the same again. Pop one lug into 1 hole, then squeeze and push the other flap lug onto the hole, and with the right amount of squeeze the lug should pop in!

Good luck!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Nats on September 05, 2017, 08:31:20 pm
Brilliant, I would have never figured it out myself! Thank you thank you thank you :-)
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on September 05, 2017, 08:32:24 pm
Any time, good luck! Maybe try it before you order just a flap just in case!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: twocheeks on September 06, 2017, 09:52:53 am
Hi beko, i have a dc23 at the moment that i took in part-ex, the red release rod is snapped and am wondering where i could source one from, other than that is their anyone on here that might have one lying around for some beer tokens.
thanks twocheeks (dave)
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on September 06, 2017, 10:43:05 am
Your best bet is from a scrapper, or see if Claire at mvacs can source a new one for you!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on October 19, 2017, 07:47:06 am
Hi, removed the motor on the DC23 (four machine screws - Torx 10) from the motor housing behind the cord reel.  These screws hold the bucket with the motor onto the DC23 body - they screw directly into the plastic body and can be seen in the DC23 strip-down by beko1987.

Problem is, I have the new motor to install but I lost one of the Torx 10 machine screws.  Does anyone know the exact spec on these machine screws so I can buy one to replace the one I have lost?

Hopefully I can get hold of one fairly easily.

Kind regards, Paul.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Dysonboy on October 19, 2017, 04:33:45 pm
Hi, removed the motor on the DC23 (four machine screws - Torx 10) from the motor housing behind the cord reel.  These screws hold the bucket with the motor onto the DC23 body - they screw directly into the plastic body and can be seen in the DC23 strip-down by beko1987.

Problem is, I have the new motor to install but I lost one of the Torx 10 machine screws.  Does anyone know the exact spec on these machine screws so I can buy one to replace the one I have lost?

Hopefully I can get hold of one fairly easily.

Kind regards, Paul.
T10! Thats a bit small for a dyson! T15 is usual, T10 are tiny and such are used in clutches in uprights only as far as I was aware. Are you sure they arnt T15, Ive known some of my screwedrivers in the past to be labeled smaller then they are. if they are t15 they should just be generic between most dysons.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: bluebumble485 on October 19, 2017, 08:56:19 pm
if you look on ebay you can get a fairly cheap full set they allways come in handy on dysons
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on October 20, 2017, 01:56:39 am
Thanks for the feedback.  I'll have a look on ebay. :tiphat:

I attached two photos:

First photo shows the Torx 10 machine screw (I need to find one of these to replace the one I lost) - four of these screws secure the bucket/motor to the DC23 vac plastic body.

Second photo shows the smaller Torx 10 machine screw mentioned above against the larger Torx 15 screw.  I mistakenly bought Torx 15 screws from Man Vacs thinking that was the one I needed (I now have plenty of Torx 15 screws!!!). :'(

The screw head diameter looks like 5mm and the body length looks like 12mm (overall length of 13.5mm) and it is most definitely Torx 10; the screw pitch is hard to tell (much finer than the Torx 15 screws I got from Man Vacs) but guessing 0.5mm.

Not sure what I'm after?  Is it "Pan head stainless steel Torx 10, M5 x 12 with 0.5 pitch"? :thumbsup:

Bloody fasteners - if we had a world-wide order (dictatorship), at least we wouldn't have to worry about the range of fasteners - a dictatorship would bring back some standardisation! :angryman:   

Wish there was a Dyson parts spec and I could confidently look for the exact replacement screw? :icon_nod:
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on October 20, 2017, 02:28:34 am
Geez, didn't think this would be so difficult. :'(

Checked ebay and reckon I'm looking for M6 x 12mm Torx 10 ((pan head) machine screw)?  Tried several combos but can't seem to crack it - nothing quite fits the bill - haven't even got around to minimum quantities and/or price.

Ah, bugger! :'(  Stuck with a new motor and HEPA filter for my DC23 that I currently can't install because I'm missing a screw (have three but need four)...
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on October 20, 2017, 02:34:50 am
Found this - looks right I think (not sure if it's Torx 10, doesn't say - guess that doesn't matter: diameter, pitch and length are more important):
 
https://www.albanycountyfasteners.com/M6-x-1-0-Torx-Pan-Head-Machine-Screw-Metric-A2-SS-p/1099-010.htm

Problem is I'm in Australia and they're in New York!  Would have thought there would be something on ebay???  Will keep trying!

If anyone can help that would be great otherwise I'll persevere!  It's always the little things that put up the road-blocks eh?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on October 20, 2017, 05:01:11 am
Is it just one screw your missing? Could try a nice bead of adhesive sealent (tiger seal here in the uk, but any car type sump/body adhesive may work) around the motor bucket mating face then put the other 2 screws in?

You might even get away with just 3 screws

Failing that, take a drive out with one of the screws and find an old school hardware shop where the owner knows what he's doing and see if he can match it? I'm sure the receiving thread would rents itself with another pitch if thread if needed, and if you can't get the exact length just buy a junior hacksaw whilst your there?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on October 20, 2017, 06:18:25 am
Thanks beko1987 and everyone else who replied!

I think I found one (?):

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Dyson-DC23-T2i-DC32-Animal-Vacuum-3mm-x-12mm-T10-Screw-914426-02-m3x12-/201644387744?hash=item2ef2f12da0:g:xaoAAOSwgZ1XrVKr

Genuine Dyson DC23 T2i DC32 Animal Vacuum 3mm x 12mm T10 Screw 914426-02 m3x12

Looks like M3 rather than M5 (which is what I originally thought)!

ON SALE for $7.92!!!  Lot of money for a screw though!



Also found one here:

http://dysonvacuumspares.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=1125

Dyson DC23 Screw M3X12-T10, Part, 914426-02

This one is British Pounds 3.99!  Again, a lot of money for a bloody screw!


Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: GeorgeJ on October 20, 2017, 03:49:49 pm
I'd follow Beko's advice.  See if it will get a solid seal with only 3... if not, find another screw and tap the hole to it.  I wouldn't spend $8 on a screw.  Those are aviation prices  :))
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: Intestinalworm on January 20, 2018, 02:39:13 am
Anyway, Dyson DC23 is 100% (has been for a while now), works like a treat, so thought I'd just come back and "finish things off" as far as the forum goes.  Has a new motor that I fitted and a new HEPA filter (bought from Man Vacs - even with shipping costs it was cheaper than what was available in Australia).  Stripped down everything on the DC23 as per Beko's excellent tear-down description.  Found a T10 machine screw for the plastic motor shroud (black bin) - got a whole packet in fact for just $3 from a large hardware chain - not too difficult in the end when you determine exactly what you're looking for (could sell the rest of the machine screws in the packet for a bloody mint on ebay but won't do that!).  I did use a dab of "JB Weld" on the inside of the T10 machine screw for a bit of extra hold - motor held in place in the black bin with four machine screws and a little JB Weld and won't budge.

I got the old machine screw (had its head sheared off - too much torque when tightening- use a torx screwdriver, rather than a torx bit and a rachet!) out by using a bit of chemistry!  The body of the vac is ABS (acylonitrile butadiene styrene) I believe, so I used a drop of acetone ("non-enviro-friendly" old style nail polish) on the headless screw which softened/dissolved the ABS enough around the top of the screw so I could get purchase on the shaft of the headless screw with needle nose pliers and screw it out.  I then quickly cleaned the area to remove the acetone and stop further softening by using some IPA (iso propyl alcohol).  All good - new T10 machine screw went in fine but I used a little dab of JB Weld to make sure it was secure.

Anyway, the Man Vac forum is great, and if you get some Torx screwdrivers (T10 and T15) and read through the info here then you're on your way to fixing most things Dyson - take your time.  Man Vacs parts are super competitive price-wise and you know what you're getting is quality - even still worth buying after adding freight to Australia - so you guys in the UK have it good with Man Vacs.

 
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: twosixohtwo on February 26, 2018, 11:09:07 pm
Briliant refurb. I had a very heavily used Dyson in college 10+ years ago, and I thought it was a Canadian-market DC21, but looking through this, I now think it was a 23. Managed to clean out the bin and cyclone assembly myself and it worked a treat. That is, until I had a housemate under the influence of something powerful that took the whole thing apart one night, to every individual component. Never could figure out how to get it back together, so to the recyclers it went, and since I was moving (to a place away from this housemate) I splurged on a Miele. Wish I'd known of this forum then, at least if it existed, since I could have gave it new life or at least parted it out.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: sharynapowell on November 11, 2018, 03:27:01 pm
Hi beko1987. Where is the fan on the Dyson dc 23. Is it on the side where the red bit is or is it inside the turbo bit
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: frderek on May 20, 2019, 01:54:31 pm
Hi Sam. How do you get the thing that holds the brush roll off the spindle of the turbo? ;)
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on May 20, 2019, 02:06:57 pm
Hi Sam. How do you get the thing that holds the brush roll off the spindle of the turbo? ;)
You don't! Their pressed on at the factory, I've removed them before and basically broke the thing, they never work right again i'm afraid. (unless anyone else knows the knack?)

Whats the issue with it? Presuming you need to get inside the bearing housing?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: frderek on May 20, 2019, 02:30:22 pm
Was trying to get it apart to get to the fan. Presumably, it's accessible under the plastic cap? Is there a nack to getting that off without ruining it? It's resisting all my efforts so far!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MOIDEPRITE on December 17, 2019, 04:46:29 am

The white ring slots onto the cones


Wanted to thank you for the detailed tear-down images.   Ran into trouble with my DC32 not working properly.  It is a Canadian model, comparable to the DC23t2 in UK AFAIK.   I took it apart, cleaned it and put it back together again.  Was working great and feeling quite proud of myself until my wife pointed out the white ring and gasket that I'd set aside after cleaning and missed when I put the unit back together :-0 

Decided to review the parts to make sure that I'd put everything else where they were supposed to go and stumbled upon your post.  Exactly what I needed.  Thank you from across the pond!

Lawrie
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Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: beko1987 on December 17, 2019, 08:50:38 am
Great to hear your success! I've forgotten a layer in a cyclone before... Punched half of the screws through the top before I realised, oops!
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: rainmaker on March 15, 2020, 09:44:00 pm
It's been quite a few years since the original post but it still proves useful.
My 11 years old DC23 Animal has given up a ghost a while ago and  I suspected worn out carbon brushes. While it's not a rocket science this guide has given me some well needed confidence at a couple of steps (like pulling off the cable side wheel, I was sure I'm going to break it).
Anyway, once I stripped it all out I could confirm that the brushes are indeed worn to the point of no contact. Here's where the fun begins. Cleaned the motor from old carbon dust and installed some cheap aftermarket brushes. they were a good fit but once I connected power they started to wear quickly, caused a short and the whole thing burst into a rather impressive fire (no worries, the motor was in a vice on a test bed). I've tried a few things but every time the result was the same, a little electric bonfire.
So I've completely lost appetite for third party components, ordered original Dyson motor bucket assembly from Man Vacs and now the trusted old cleaner is like new.
Oh, btw, I wish I didn't see the inside of the cyclone assembly....

Nearly 5 years down the line, many thanks beko for your great guide ...
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MVacs on March 15, 2020, 10:19:53 pm
ordered original Dyson motor bucket assembly from Man Vacs and now the trusted old cleaner is like new.
Oh, btw, I wish I didn't see the inside of the cyclone assembly....

Nearly 5 years down the line, many thanks beko for your great guide ...

We thank you for your custom and are pleased that the forum here has proved useful for you.

Those genuine DC23 motors are starting to dry up now. They are getting harder and harder to get and I expect will be unobtainable in the near future.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: sackvilledan on February 01, 2021, 04:14:58 pm
Excellent pictorial, thanks for taking the time to detail and post all this!

...I'm wondering if you'd know - I have the same vacuum which the motorhead no longer powers up on.  The powerhead works with other vacuums, just not mine.  The hose has been replaced, and so the repair tech thinks there's a board or controller of some kind inside the machine which needs to be replaced.  Do you know what part that might be?  I didn't see any kind of processor / board in your photos.

Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MVacs on February 01, 2021, 07:39:57 pm
If yours is a Canadian model, it will have an electrically driven powerhead like on a DC21. We don't have that exact model here.

What type of controller do you have in the handle? It should be a simple matter for a tech to isolate the fault with a meter, so there's no power coming out of the machine?
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: sackvilledan on February 02, 2021, 12:38:00 pm
That's right, it's an electric motorhead (not a turbo head) and there is no power coming out of the machine.  The electric motorhead works on other vacuums. Tried replacing the hose and still nothing happening, so the issue is definitely in the vacuum body itself.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: MVacs on February 04, 2021, 02:11:53 pm
I assume your machines are the same as US machines, I just looked on a US part site and I'd be suspecting this item.

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That is part number 912458-01.

But you need to take the machine apart and test the output from it first to be sure.
Title: Re: Dyson DC23 - Stripdown and Refurb (and turbo tool repair)
Post by: sackvilledan on February 04, 2021, 06:57:03 pm
Awesome, thanks so much!  I have a donor DC23 that apparently this board is still good on, so I will strip that down to find out where it lives inside the Dyson to swap out.