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Title: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on April 30, 2017, 08:16:39 pm
This weekend I was accompanied by two new Dyson DC07's.
Friday 28th - Dyson DC07I Red clutched - Penkridge, Staffordshire. Descripton read: Just stopped working, bought new one. £10
Saturday 29th - Dyson DC07 Origin Yellow Non-Clutch - Burntwood, Staffordshire. Description read: Will be shown working to buyer. £15

After a checkover I had confirmed the DC07I had previously been repaired - the clutch cover showed signs of previous removal and one of the motor housing tabs was missing. With a new 13 Amp fuse in it fired up - well Low grumbling noise accompanied with the fuse blown 3 seconds later. After taking the machine outside I removed the post motor filter which had also recently been replaced with a standard pad and smoke emerged from the motor diffuser. after stripping the machine I also confirmed the clutch needed rebelting - with the clutch belt slipping badly on the brushbar - however the fan belt in good condition and not streched. It had a grey chassis and was badly faded.

After a checkover the DC07 Origin was in overly good condition - ignoring the deep scratches all over the cleaner head the fan belt on that was streched and the motor was in good order - the chassis was the later darker silver one and wasnt faded and the cyclone was the early (1) and fully yellow cyclone - the head was also the early model with the DC07 logo on and the larger Dyson logo. simple head, cyclone, wand and other coloured accessories (except the purple motor housing) was swapped onto the silver chassis and I handed over the machine to my Nan for my uncle to replace his rubbish DC50 explaining that I would need to swap the clutch belt very soon.

I am now In need of a YV-2200 or decent 1600W aftermarket motor for my Origin. I will be keeping my Origin with the faded chasiss, and odd purple bits that I couldn't be bothered to change over such as the wheels and a simple little cable grip...

Overall a good buy for £25 and with a new motor for about £30 or less I should be able to get a couple cheap good machines.
Any motor links or suggestions would be nice please - 1400 or 1600W
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 01, 2017, 02:27:58 pm
 All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 01, 2017, 07:39:04 pm
All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.
Yeah I was looking at the 240KK - don't trust these cheap ones coming from China - especially the ones which have a picture of a motor without TOC and above have writing saying "INCLUDEDS THERMAL OVERLOAD TOC!"
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 01, 2017, 07:47:46 pm
Actually I have a dc05 we use for dirty jobs fitted with one of those, its very good. All the motors including the 240kk are made in china.
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 01, 2017, 08:58:49 pm
Actually I have a dc05 we use for dirty jobs fitted with one of those, its very good. All the motors including the 240kk are made in china.
These are the ones I dont like the sound of - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YV-2200-YDK-TYPE-Vacuum-MOTOR-Fits-DYSON-DC07-Hepa-Post-Filter-Seal-KIT-/170899032919?hash=item27ca604b57:g:Wu0AAOSwymxVLTPv
Reckons it has a TOC even though the wires are direct onto the carbons and comes with brand new filters and filter seals for only 20 pounds. Its the kind of thing that sounds too dodgey for my liking - there is a few though I like the sound of.
Wondered if a used YV-2200 would be any good? bought a used YV-511 for my dads old DC07 we recently scrapped, but I wasnt keen on the amount of suction from the lower wattage 1200w motor, compared to the original YV-2200 14OOw

I have tested using my nans DC07I i refurbished and the cyclone works okay albeit very dusty, not sure how much dust gets to the filter as of yet - I can confirm the red I my nan has filter gets quite dirty quite quickly - a quick run around and there was already a few bits of fluff and dust on it - they are both (1) cyclones.

And can confirm the brushroll works well even though its a little short bristled - Belt is slightly streched and is the original one but still works ok - I attached my origin head to my dc04 de stijl until I get motor for the origin
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on May 01, 2017, 09:54:29 pm
All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.


I am after a decent motor for a DC07 as well last one I got was a Quаltex MTR240KK Motor and was quite impressed with it however I paid well over the odds for it and I was wondering if you can contact Quаltex direct to see if the motors can be purchased directly from them. Does anyone know where I can get this type of motor?
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2017, 12:33:00 am
All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.


I am after a decent motor for a DC07 as well last one I got was a Qtex MTR240KK Motor and was quite impressed with it however I paid well over the odds for it and I was wondering if you can contact Qtex direct to see if the motors can be purchased directly from them. Does anyone know where I can get this type of motor?
Ive been after a Quаltex MTR240KK actually - was it a good motor? better than stock YV-2200 or not? im scanning eBay after them - cant tell whats genuine Quаltex MTR240KK or whats a "Fake" pretending to be a Quаltex MTR240KK
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2017, 12:48:19 am
***UPDATE***
After swapping the entire chassis between the DC07I and the Origin so I didn't have to remove the motor:
The flippen motor housing still stinks terribly of burnt motor - remember removing the filter to see smoke pouring out......
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2017, 12:56:12 am
Looking at this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-DYSON-YDK-YV-2200-MOTOR-DC04-DC07-DC14/162498889071
Worth a shot?
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on May 02, 2017, 09:50:52 am
All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.


I am after a decent motor for a DC07 as well last one I got was a Qtex MTR240KK Motor and was quite impressed with it however I paid well over the odds for it and I was wondering if you can contact Qtex direct to see if the motors can be purchased directly from them. Does anyone know where I can get this type of motor?
Ive been after a Qtex MTR240KK actually - was it a good motor? better than stock YV-2200 or not? im scanning eBay after them - cant tell whats genuine Qtex MTR240KK or whats a "Fake" pretending to be a Qtex MTR240KK



I was very impressed with the Quаltex MTR240KK and personally I would steer clear of the used Genuine one on Ebay although it may look good you dont know its history and it could be on its last legs and have had a dogs life. I have asked a few of the suppliers on Ebay as to what motor will be supplied and will wait and see what comes back The best price so far is £23.00 delivered but I seem to remember someone mentioning on a previous post on this forum as to who supplies Quаltex but have had a look to see and cannot find it anywhere. If I get any info back or find the MTR240KK at a decent price I will let you know  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on May 02, 2017, 12:26:25 pm
All after market motors are 1600w you want a 240kk from Mvac or from Q

http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html

299s can be found on ebay for £9.99 delivered but they may last a month or a couple of years upwards.


I am after a decent motor for a DC07 as well last one I got was a Qtex MTR240KK Motor and was quite impressed with it however I paid well over the odds for it and I was wondering if you can contact Qtex direct to see if the motors can be purchased directly from them. Does anyone know where I can get this type of motor?
Ive been after a Qtex MTR240KK actually - was it a good motor? better than stock YV-2200 or not? im scanning eBay after them - cant tell whats genuine Qtex MTR240KK or whats a "Fake" pretending to be a Qtex MTR240KK



I was very impressed with the Qtex MTR240KK and personally I would steer clear of the used Genuine one on Ebay although it may look good you dont know its history and it could be on its last legs and have had a dogs life. I have asked a few of the suppliers on Ebay as to what motor will be supplied and will wait and see what comes back The best price so far is £23.00 delivered but I seem to remember someone mentioning on a previous post on this forum as to who supplies Qtex but have had a look to see and cannot find it anywhere. If I get any info back or find the MTR240KK at a decent price I will let you know  :thumbsup:

I got a message back from Ebay from dysondoctor-uk and they tell me that they will supply a Quаltex MTR240KK Motor for 13.60 delivered, I have ordered 2 at that price  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2017, 03:50:30 pm
This one seems ok I think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Dyson-DC07-DC14-DC04-Motor-YDK-Type-Brand-New-Boxed-240v-/301113101657?hash=item461bbd4d59:g:T8sAAOSwPe1UDWF4

What you guys reckon
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 02, 2017, 05:36:01 pm
That will be a mtr299, LM electrical are Q   The only place you will get a 240kk is from Q on a trade account or from Mvac or here http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html also Q

The other motor from ebay that dosen't have a TOC dose have one but it's internal.

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I got a message back from Ebay from dysondoctor-uk and they tell me that they will supply a Qtex MTR240KK Motor for 13.60 delivered, I have ordered 2 at that price
They are also Q  Was this in a listing on ebay?

Q like to use different names  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on May 02, 2017, 06:19:51 pm
That will be a mtr299, LM electrical are Q   The only place you will get a 240kk is from Q on a trade account or from Mvac or here http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html also Q

The other motor from ebay that dosen't have a TOC dose have one but it's internal.

Quote
I got a message back from Ebay from dysondoctor-uk and they tell me that they will supply a Qtex MTR240KK Motor for 13.60 delivered, I have ordered 2 at that price
They are also Q  Was this in a listing on ebay?

Q like to use different names  :biglaugh:

If anything other than 2 MTR240KK motors arrive they will be sent back  ;) and yes it was an Ebay listing 
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Hoover Master on May 02, 2017, 06:27:12 pm
I use kenley motors, which some people don't agree with, and they are good and are in eBay at under £20
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2017, 06:42:09 pm
I use kenley motors, which some people don't agree with, and they are good and are in eBay at under £20
Which are those - ive never had aftermarket before so im trying anything ATM
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 02, 2017, 07:30:53 pm
I use kenley motors, which some people don't agree with, and they are good and are in eBay at under £20
  I've used them in the past and never had a problem, but according to M vacs they are just another budget motor so not as good as a 240kk, they tend to be a bit more costly too.
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Hoover Master on May 02, 2017, 08:03:54 pm
No problems here and I've fitted loads. Will try some other motors.
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: beko1987 on May 02, 2017, 10:17:59 pm
I've just replaced an mtr240 that had blown a coil wire off... Never had an issue with the £13.48 mtr299 though!
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on May 02, 2017, 11:22:13 pm
I use kenley motors, which some people don't agree with, and they are good and are in eBay at under £20

What is the wattage of a Kenley Motor?
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Hoover Master on May 03, 2017, 07:08:47 am
Kenley are 1600w
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 03, 2017, 01:53:48 pm
I've just replaced an mtr240 that had blown a coil wire off... Never had an issue with the £13.48 mtr299 though!

I've had that on a few 299s
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 03, 2017, 04:00:48 pm
I've just replaced an mtr240 that had blown a coil wire off... Never had an issue with the £13.48 mtr299 though!
Beko - do you think I should try the MTR-299  seen them not too expensive so cant really argue for there price?"
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Parwaz7862 on May 03, 2017, 05:53:07 pm
Well they are fine (the 299s are) but don't last long. When you actually use the Dyson you can't sell if it's a genuine or a fake one. I've used a DC33 with the 299 in and it seemed fine after a month and I sold it...
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ClassicDysonDealer on May 04, 2017, 10:02:48 am
I use them all the time in dc04s never had a problem
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 07, 2017, 10:20:57 pm
***ORIGIN UPDATE***
Firstly I was vacuuming my dads car with my DC04 De Stijl - our neighbours over the road were doing their car too (Those neighbours are dodgey - the reversed into our car because it was parked on the road and blamed us... they also were complaining about our driveway because it needed doing and the were kicking off telling us to get it done - where the bloody hell are we supposed to get money just like that from...? and when we finally saved up enough money to do the driveway they came over to the people putting down the block-paving and said "'Bout bloody time they had that done" and walked off...!)
Anyway - they have a DC07 Origin and they saw me empty my DC04 bin, they saw how I pulled it apart and the cyclone insert was inside the bin - so anyways there machine blocked up - so they forced the bin off seeing me do so - without opening the flap and have probaly broke the lock assembly now :biglaugh: and then they were confused as to why the fins were still on the cyclone - so they were there pulling and pulling trying to get them off thinking something was stuck! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:  - if they were nice nieghbours i would of walked over and offered to help them with it as they obviously knew nothing about dysons at all, If they didn't kick off about me going inside a car to get say some flippen shopping bags out or to vacuum it. but if they were nice neighbours id of helped them remove the blockage and tell them that if they need any help with it any time they can ask me but cause they are complete idiots I didn't bother - I mean I went in my mums car the once to get something out and they kicked off - came over "You should NOT be in that car - no doubt you will release the parking brake and run into my car which is impossible to replace!!!" two weeks later they get the car replaced anyway - why should I help someone who kicks off at me all the time

As for my Origin - got a MTR-299 on its way and a pack of belts for it. I took the brushroll for a wash (This was my spare brushroll from my first DC04 as the original one from the 07 - the bristles werent even sticking out of the brushroll housing without the soleplate - with it on it was useless) and forgot to remove the bearings...  :'( so one of them was rusty but fine the other  had welded itself to the pole with rust and luckily I had kept the knackerd brushroll as a spare - so removed the one bearing - lost it, removed the other and it bounced off my dads head :biglaugh: and when I tested the one rusty bearing was ok, so rebuilt the brushroll and thats all good! now just awaiting for my motor to arrive (hopefully tomorow - Monday 8th) and the belts for my DC01 and DC07 should come wednesday 10th so the motor can go in when it arrives and until the belts come i will borrow the one from my DC01 the belt isn't streched but does sometimes slip because the belt has lost its small grippy bumbs that give the friction...
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 07, 2017, 10:47:13 pm
Next time they kick of stay calm, look them in the eye and say "go f#*k yourself you self important cunt" they wont bother you again  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ClassicDysonDealer on May 08, 2017, 02:46:23 pm
WELL SAID MADRAT :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: beko1987 on May 08, 2017, 02:52:25 pm
I've just replaced an mtr240 that had blown a coil wire off... Never had an issue with the £13.48 mtr299 though!
Beko - do you think I should try the MTR-299  seen them not too expensive so cant really argue for there price?"

Never had any issues with any that I've fitted to machines to sell. So they either swear at me and bin the machine, or their utterly fine.
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 08, 2017, 04:31:06 pm
I've just replaced an mtr240 that had blown a coil wire off... Never had an issue with the £13.48 mtr299 though!
Beko - do you think I should try the MTR-299  seen them not too expensive so cant really argue for there price?"

Never had any issues with any that I've fitted to machines to sell. So they either swear at me and bin the machine, or their utterly fine.

Well as long as it gives my origin a couple years im not too bothered - can't argue at that price for a few more years
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Madrat on May 08, 2017, 06:54:09 pm
works most times
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 14, 2017, 07:59:15 pm
MTR299 fitted and its brilliant! millions of suction and it glues itself to the floor
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on May 28, 2017, 11:30:49 pm
Origin Update -
Now I have noticed the three diferent greys of the DC07 - Light grey on the early models - a medium silver on the late models - and the near end of production models with a dark silver but not quite as dark as the dark steel as used on DC14

Bought a badly damaged DC07 All floors - turqoise - it was a scrapper - so I stole some of the turqoise parts for my origin - the yellow and blue go nicely - a lot of pulling and swearing and finally the shroud and fins seperated - I swapped across the late silver chassis - which also had a near-end-production slightly darker silver power button housing and wand, and a few blue bits.
so i now have a blue "2" cyclone on my origin with a yellow handle - with a end-of-production dark grey wand with the blue wand cap and cable wind, with a yellow button. Blue power button and changeover inspecton and blue filter release with the original yellow non clutched brush house. finally the cyclone had a yellow top on it and yellow fins and shroud.
Fitted with a MTR299 its a brilliant machine - ill try and post a vid tomorow, possibly tuesday if the video is slow to render again.
I have only three faults - the bristles are a little short on the brush, the head is badly scuffed and the head is also missing (snapped) the locking wheel - so if i try to move the machine without reclining - it self reclines... No problem really - I think I have a spare DC04 Silver Lime either in the shed or my brothers bedroom which is still in transformation prossess from a bathroom to bedroom - the room is now full to the cieling with tools and other stuff that gets put in there - theres a 3 month old Samsung 48" curved smart tv (UE48j6300) in there thats got a cracked screen (thankyou bruv for pulling that over onto the floor) and a perfectly good 32" LG tv and 37" Neon tv
Ill try and remove the clip off that head when I find it (My old DC04 I had had a broken head so the belt kept catching and snapping on it so when I had my DC07 it got put away, then when I tried to remove the machine to repair my nans old DC04 the head fell off somewhere  :boggleeye: so hopefully I can swap that over since non clutched and clutched having different locking wheels
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on June 17, 2017, 11:23:18 pm
That will be a mtr299, LM electrical are Q   The only place you will get a 240kk is from Q on a trade account or from Mvac or here http://www.*Unapproved Link*/motor-quality-alternative-to-dyson-genuine-mtr240kk.html also Q

The other motor from ebay that dosen't have a TOC dose have one but it's internal.

Quote
I got a message back from Ebay from dysondoctor-uk and they tell me that they will supply a Qtex MTR240KK Motor for 13.60 delivered, I have ordered 2 at that price
They are also Q  Was this in a listing on ebay?

Q like to use different names  :biglaugh:

If anything other than 2 MTR240KK motors arrive they will be sent back  ;) and yes it was an Ebay listing

Did 2 MTR-240KK's come or did you get ripped off?
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: ocddyson on June 18, 2017, 10:17:50 am
They acyually sent me 2 MTR99's which were promptly sent back at their expense through Ebay as they were not as described.
As they had said that they would supply 2 MTR240KK motors and I had all the messages to prove the fact they honoured that and I was duly sent 2 MTR240KK motors @ £13.60 per motor delivered  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2X DC07's in two days - Origin - I
Post by: Elgin on June 18, 2017, 12:57:52 pm
They acyually sent me 2 MTR99's which were promptly sent back at their expense through Ebay as they were not as described.
As they had said that they would supply 2 MTR240KK motors and I had all the messages to prove the fact they honoured that and I was duly sent 2 MTR240KK motors @ £13.60 per motor delivered  :thumbsup:

At least you got it sorted