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Dyson Advice => Vacuum and Appliance Chat => Topic started by: MVacs on October 01, 2010, 02:54:07 pm
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So which is your favourite Dyson?
Which one do you think is a lemon? Tell us on the topic here.
You cant see the results until you have voted (so you reading guests will have to create a free account (https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php?action=register) to vote), you can have up to three votes each, and you can change your vote if you have second thoughts.
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The DC07 is the best Dyson for me! I have the clutched model so it is suitable for my laminates as well as carpets. I think it is built better than the other models. It is more robust than the later models and I believe performs better than the new "Balls". Does anybody else think this?
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Looks like the DC07 is nudging ahead up to now! :-*
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I too like the dc07 but I have a dc14 at home.
The dc07 are rare here and I sell them fast.
I find it interesting to note that no one has voted for any of the cylinder models!
As I have said elsewere in this forum I don't like them much. I have the dc22, 23 and two dc05 models. the 22&23 are the show models but I have never sold one. I always convince the customer to but a upright. The two dc05.s are used in the show room and workshop as I can't sell them ( they are rare here too).
I find the dyson cylinder models a bit poor in the suction department compared to the competition.
Here in SA the 22 sells for £ 390.00 and the dc23 £ 490.00 they are very expensive and there suction is poor compared to the competition that cost £ 190.00
The uprights rule by far. I think dyson needs to put the same inovation that it puts into its uprights into its Cylinders
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I find it interesting to note that no one has voted for any of the cylinder models!
We probably sell one cylinder machine for every 200 or 300 uprights we sell. They are not so popular in the UK.
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Well... I have to go with the DC14, had this model for 3 years now and not one glitch out of it. OK, its slightly on the weighty side but when it comes to cleaning this is the daddy!! :bow: great for all floor surfaces and very easy to maintain.
I recommend this model to anyone.
My DC24 is currently in bits broken.......
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I have always thought, despite looking pretty cool, the DC18 was a bit of a lemon.
(http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/9a/1/AAAAAvM38AcAAAAAAJoXDw.jpg)
We haven't seen one yet that doesn't need an undercarriage mechanism.
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The dc18 does look cool, though very retro. They were very popular here in SA and I get a lot back with the undercarriage problem but some old South African ingenuity and a metal bracket and its sorted for life. The undercarriage breaks when things get stuck in the pipe coupler and you force the handle down breaking the coupler locator.
We do however get more dc14's back with blown motors almost 4 a week Thats a lot for us.
The motors are very similar to those found in a dc07 so I think it has to do with the higher RPM the newer cyclone stresses on the motor.
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I never saw one of those DC18's.
That cyclone looks very small.
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The cyclone on a dc18 is exactaly the same size as that on a dc25 although dyson says there is a differance in capacity I have put them side by side and can't see any difference in size . the only difference is the red plastic rod that releases the bin lid
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Im saying the dc7 as I just bought one.
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Hi there,
I am a repairer in Australia and my favourite is definately the DC08. It is so easy to pull apart and the shops sold tons of them here so they are a great source of income for me.
I like the DC04 for reliability though they are rock solid. :icon_nod:
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I have a vacuum shop in Cape Town South africa
I also like the dc08 they are so simple to work on the motor change must be one of the easiest of all vacuum cleaners.$$$$$$
I personally love my dc15 and 25.That I have at home
As far as the most frustrating to work on , the dc25 is definitely up their with my worst
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S0 easy to repair, just takes ages for the Cyclones to dry out after giving them a good blasting!
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I built a special drying tunnel using an industrial fan, takes about 5 min to dty them out
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I built a special drying tunnel using an industrial fan, takes about 5 min to dty them out
Where are the photos of this you promised us?
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Haha been so busy I'll put these up soon, I have two drying systems one for drying the machine parts and one for drying out dc07 cyclones
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S0 easy to repair, just takes ages for the Cyclones to dry out after giving them a good blasting!
We have a small indoor tent with a radiator in and an extractor. We stack them all in there after steam cleaning and they are dry overnight. :thumbsup:
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So, 33% of people preferring the DC07 up to now. :thumbsup:
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Old DC05 and new DC31 Animal.
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Old DC05 and new DC31 Animal.
There's still loads of DC05's about, and no shortage of spare parts for them. :thumbsup:
How do you find the DC31? We don't see so many of those hand helds.
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There's still loads of DC05's about, and no shortage of spare parts for them. :thumbsup:
How do you find the DC31? We don't see so many of those hand helds.
It's very good, vastly superior to any of the other cheaper mini-vac type things I've had over the years.
How it compares with a similarly priced alternative if there is one I don't know, but it's good enough to do the stairs in a few minutes and unless they were very dirty you wouldn't know a hand held had done the job. Its booster switch provides more power and the charger only uses juice when actively charging so as there's no carbon footprint at rest I can just leave it plugged in and it's always ready. Altogether a thoughtfully designed piece of kit imo.
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We don't sell the hand-helds. We do repair the odd one. But batteries are quite expensive, chargers tend to fail and if they suck up a bit of water they are killed stone dead. Parts are not as plentiful as with other ones either. We have had quite a few with fried circuit boards in them.
Tellingly, the warranty on them is shorter too.
All that just kinda put us off supporting them as a product. :underchair:
But to be fair, most of our experience is with the early ones like the DC16. Perhaps later ones improved somewhat?
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But batteries are quite expensive, chargers tend to fail and if they suck up a bit of water they are killed stone dead. Parts are not as plentiful as with other ones either. We have had quite a few with fried circuit boards in them.
Tellingly, the warranty on them is shorter too.
Hmmm... some useful if not scary info there - thanks very much... erm I think lol
Do you feel my practice of leaving it plugged in all the time is likely to give me a potentially shorter battery & charger life than planning ahead and charging immediately before use each time? I don't use it a lot so I'm now thinking I might be better not having it on all the time. Having said that I just checked and it's been plugged in for about 18 months so far and is fine (touches wood).
Perhaps later ones improved somewhat?
If that isn't the case you'll likely be the second to know :o
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Do you feel my practice of leaving it plugged in all the time is likely to give me a potentially shorter battery & charger life than planning ahead and charging immediately before use each time? I don't use it a lot so I'm now thinking I might be better not having it on all the time. Having said that I just checked and it's been plugged in for about 18 months so far and is fine (touches wood).
I think they are a Ni-Cad battery and a smart charger, so that prevents them from being overcharged. Letting them naturally discharge and then sit empty is more likely to shorten a battery's life IMO.
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you need to add the new dysons to the list
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I chose my DC14. :icon_nod:
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Well I have the DC08, but I fell in love with the priciple many years ago, when in Bristol I saw the very first model. I didn't buy it as the model fell in pieces when it was demonstrated to me :'( The shopmanager was not pleased at all and murmured something about production start problems.
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DC=07 anytime for me, ;)
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My favourite would have to be the DC04. It is the most reliable vacuum I have ever encountered (apart from the Miele uprights, but they weigh about 10kg) and it is very tough. It is subjected to regular use - every day in our house. It still functions like new and it has tremendous suction power.
I would have picked the DC01 but the cyclone is not as efficient - the cyclone does not spin as much fine dust into the bin vs the internal cyclone part - which in the DC01 is mainly full of carpet fiber. This seems to have been solved on the DC04 but the cyclone looks identical - other than that it has the fins around the outer part of the bin insert (maybe this is it since they later added this to the 01) and you have to replace the filters - solved this by cutting up a spare DC04 washable filter to fit the 01 in both places - much better ;)
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Its interesting that the DC07 is currently almost three times more popular than the DC14, which is the later, face-lifted version of the same technology.
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Best Dysons 1. DC07. 2.DC04. 3.DC14 All more reliable than the Dyson Balls
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strange i have found 6 months ago i was selling more dc07s now i sell far more dc14s
2 to one i would say ,dc04s are dead now i think i have started stripping only ,unless i get a mint one
then you struggle to get £30 in ebay
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strange i have found 6 months ago i was selling more dc07s now i sell far more dc14s
Recently, we have been selling more DC14's too.
I have a DC14 at home as well.
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Have never seen the poll winner - DC07. Is this model still being produced?
My favourite ones are DC-35 - it's very handy as I don't have carpets and I need 5-10 minutes to get all my three rooms and a kitchen vacuumed. Besides, I've bought 2 additional batteries, so in total I own two handhelds DC-35 two batteries for each one. That's why I'm not afraid I will have to stop vacuuming and wait for 3,5 hours until battery gets fully charged. :)
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The DC07 isn't still being produced, but it is technically similar to the DC33 that is.
You can find out more about it here: About the DC07 (https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/topic,22.0.html).
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It's got to be the DC07 all the way, as they are so easy to maintain, service, repair and refurbish!...
The newer machines are far to flimsy and not to mention far too exoensive!..
Just bought a DC24 to refurbish/resell but, the brushbar mechanism is far to over-complicated!.. :'(
Would much prefer to keep refurbishing DC07's, easy dismantle and great performance!..
Jason
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I agree. The DC07 is a great machine!
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I have two DC01's, for sentimental reasons, and they still perform well, one DC04, which is really a great machine, two DC07's, and a number of other machines. I find the ball models are not as popular with most people who have had the opportunity to try mine, as they are not traditional. The DC15 is vulnerable to furniture, as the area around the electrics on the l/h side of the machine looking from the handle towards the front sticks out somewhat. I have posted elsewhere my addition to the seeming design fault that is inherent in the DC41 (thanks for this information that saved me getting passed two machines with missing brushroll wheel and axle!), and the red circlip that can get lost in transit. The DC33 is a good model, but Dyson seem to improve some areas of their machines, and at the same time alter things that were fine before. Why change the wands after the DC14? Maybe metal is in short supply, but then they now go for a larger diameter wand! Maybe the suction is improved, but when you look at the chassis, for example, this has hardly changed in years, indicating that they got it right in the first place.
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Well, we moved back to the USA in 2005, and this was the only ball Dyson available at our local store. We love it! However, as soon as I am official on this site, I will post a problem we just started to have after getting new carpets.
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Well, we moved back to the USA in 2005, and this was the only ball Dyson available at our local store. We love it! However, as soon as I am official on this site, I will post a problem we just started to have after getting new carpets.
You didnt mention which model? ;D
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DC25
And the problem is so much suction on the new carpet, that it is very hard to push the vacuum across the carpet.
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Its got to be the DC07 very good suction and performance, easy to maintain and spares are readily available. They are better built than the newer Dysons, the Ball Dyson are nice to use but are not so well built and don't clean like the Dc07!
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DC04 is bullet proof, DC07 is a bit flimsy in comparison and noisy :-* the cyclone is also a bugger to clean, the DC14 was much better.
Had a DC05 motor head for a while (now with son and his girlfriend) that was fantastic.
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DC04 is bullet proof,
We still sell them reconditioned hand over fist. We can't build them fast enough! GREAT machine. The Ford Transit of Dysons! :thumbsup:
Absolutely everything is still available for them.
And we have a job lot of green/lime stuff arrived recently, brand new, still in original Dyson boxes too. :-X
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With over a hundred votes in our poll, the DC07 is still out front @ 27% with the DC14 at second place with 14%!
If you are a new member on the forums, please cast your vote and add a comment if you want.
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Personally for use I prefer a Sebo X4 as an upright and a Numatic Henry as a cannister. Both are so much quieter than than the Dysons 80db plus, get the ear defenders out!
For service Dysons are great as they are always going wrong and parts are cheap and easy to obtain.
If I had to choose a Dyson I think the DC14 is pretty good.
Keith
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I notice the DC41 isn't getting too many likes up to now. The old models are still way ahead.
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I really like the look of the DC11 - any problems with them? I mean, any particular weak spots that they're notorious for?
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I really like the look of the DC11 - any problems with them? I mean, any particular weak spots that they're notorious for?
The wands tend to break, and they are not cheap. Turbo floor tools wear out in time as they all do; they are also not cheap. Other than that, they are OK. Finding a good one now might be harder.
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Awww,,, I feel really bad for the DC02 and DC11 . :'( should have voted for them, well my 3 were uprights. Can I now vote for my 3 fave cylinders??? Lol :thumbsup:
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The wands tend to break, and they are not cheap. Turbo floor tools wear out in time as they all do; they are also not cheap. Other than that, they are OK. Finding a good one now might be harder.
Ah, right; I've seen a couple with broken wands at the bottom section - gaffer tape in no shortage, it seems. Turbo head - well, I'm ok with that, as I'd expect them to go toes-up sooner or later. So, the body parts are robust enough, I take it?
Thanks for that.
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Never had a problem with Dyson cylinder model bodies apart from DC05 motorhead handles. I really believe all the turbo heads are built to fail and non of the parts which usually break are not interchangeable with other models (typical bloody Dyson :'(. I've got a few DC11 serviceable wands if anyone is after one. You can always imbastardise mini turbo heads to make proper turbo heads.
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I tried to swap about a mini and large turbine head but couldn't do it. I think I know where I went wrong now. The 3rd screw in the ducting...
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I find the DC11s block up easily too due to the tiny hose entry hole. Also, the few that I've had to refurbish have been utterly clogged, and then abused! Filters seem to take a caning too!
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Yeah, filters aren't interchangeable with other models. I had a DC11 for ages just for mucking the cars out... until I needed a motor for a DC19!
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my favourite Dyson is the dyson dc41mk2
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Either DC14 or DC41 MK2. DC01 because I grew up with one
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DC14, DC08/19 none wrap around, last of the proper robust machines.
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I think newer dysons are not robust , but with an exception if the mk2 dc41. All the weaknesses of the original dc41 you can think of, have now been rectified!
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I have a DC07 Animal and a DC41. The trusty old DC07 for me everytime!
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DC05 is the lemon, they are just clumsy. DC02 looks like a lemon, but its not bad to be honest.
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Disagree with that, Dc05 was and still is brilliant especially the motor head
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They are good, but they feel clumsy with the tool storage on the hose, the snapable handles (both on the cyclone and the hose handle) and the long hose bracket. Cable rewinds always go on these and most of them I see on eBay have replacement plugs, even ones on gumtree and at carboots etc. Other than that, not a bad machine. I like the performance and how it's a cute machine. Not too loud either! just a few things need improving
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I added a few models and opened up guest voting as well. :icon_nod:
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Awesome ;D
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still the best!
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The DC07 is the best Dyson for me! I have the clutched model so it is suitable for my laminates as well as carpets. I think it is built better than the other models. It is more robust than the later models and I believe performs better than the new "Balls". Does anybody else think this?
I'm going to have to agree with you. The DC07 and DC14 are by far the most dependable Dyson vacuums. Also in my opinion if you really like the maneuverability of the ball series the DC15 is pretty much your best option because it's brush motor is far superior to all the other ball models.
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No sure if I mentioned this, but I'm sure I voted DC07. I now changed my opinion on my favourite to the DC14 :) I just love it!
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No sure if I mentioned this, but I'm sure I voted DC07. I now changed my opinion on my favourite to the DC14 :) I just love it!
You should be able to remove and change your vote.
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No sure if I mentioned this, but I'm sure I voted DC07. I now changed my opinion on my favourite to the DC14 :) I just love it!
You should be able to remove and change your vote.
Oh, just did it thanks :thumbsup:
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For pure suction power and cleaning ability the DC07 is tops, but a DC14 is lighter and generally nicer to use.
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Finally got around to voting, dc14 gets top marks from me. I have two, both were heavily abused (probably the worst I have ever seen), yet years after the initial refurb they still work fine. Despite my lackluster care of the filters :-X and very yellowed plastics on one of them, no damage. I prefer the dc14's ergonomics to those of the dc07, I also like the front pick up channel and the bin design. I know they don't "stick" to the carpet like the dc07's, but tbh I don't reach for a dyson when I look to deep clean carpets.
I felt compelled to select handhelds as well, I have a dc16 and dc59 abd both get tons of use. I actually really like them.
Had to pick the other machines category too, I run other brands at least as much as dyson... :grinn:
Poor little dc02, no votes lol.
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I prefer the hose/wand on the 07 much more comfortable when using the tools with the wand reversed.
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Poor little dc02, no votes lol.
No one likes the DC02! I would only get excited about a De Stijl, Recyclone or the Arctic Solo one! All of which are pretty rare in good condition (I've only ever seen one white one in the flesh too my whole life)
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I have a white dc02
Never used one, they are quite heavy.
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Woa that's rare! I heard there's like 90 made?
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Not in the best condition, and It needs a wand with white bits but it dose work.
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Not bad! ;D
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I had a DC02, cost me £1.20 off eBay and it was "okay" but it's probably my least favourite Dyson
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I've got one I got free, it'll be the first to go should it need to. It's very faded
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I've used numerous models and my favourites are DC14 and DC44 digital slim
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I want a DC44 with all tools and a Dyson V6 Total clean brand new :) Maybe even a Dc59 aswell
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Madrat, I didn't think of that, and you do have a point! the dc14 wand is not too comfortable to hold.
Is the dc02 panned for it's size and lackluster suction? I've never properly used one, I have one but haven't gotten a transformer to run it at full power yet.
I have also seen a dc02 recyclone, antartica solo, and clear when I was getting mine. It was at the vacuum museum in Missouri. The gentleman who runs it sold me his least rare dc02 variant last summer. He has all kinds of British dysons, I was amazed how small the dc05 was compared to the dc02!
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dc14 wand is fine when used in upright mode but on the 07 if you reverse the wand its the same as in upright, no other dyson is like this and none is as comfortable or as easy to use.
dc05 was great machine, we had a motor head, still going strong on it's 4th owner, have a standard one that is used for car and decorating.
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The DC05 was pretty small when it came out, but now in 2016 it's the same size as a normal British cylinder vacuum lol
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The dc02 is a massive lardy machine, no denying that. Nowadays it's very mediocre in performance too, but was probably bloody good in 1996 (is that when the 02 came out?)
I'd never pass a cheap/free one up, and they can only get rarer, but I wouldn't splurge out money on one unless it was one of the 3 special ones
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I have also seen a dc02 recyclone, antartica solo, and clear when I was getting mine. It was at the vacuum museum in Missouri. The gentleman who runs it sold me his least rare dc02 variant last summer. He has all kinds of British dysons, I was amazed how small the dc05 was compared to the dc02!
If you want any other UK machines, as long as we can source them (or even forward them if you find one on eBay or some such), we can ship to the US at OK money. If you are a collector, I'll always help out if I can. We send loads of stuff to the US. Couriers collect from us every day. Its no hardship to add another one in if you see something you want over here. I'll get it to you at reasonable money and/or buy something for you and forward it from sellers that wont ship abroad.
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Close, the 02 came out in 1995 :)
If I were somebody who has ZERO knowledge about any vacuums and I see a Dc02 I would think it's a powerful tank because of it's size
I seen a few Absolute+ DC02's with turbobrushes, I mean really? Can they spin on a toy Dyson faster? :biglaugh:
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I can understand not wanting another unless it was cheap or special!
One thing I have noticed about the older British dysons is that they have a very different feel to them than the newer ones. Can't really put it into words, just seems like the designers put a lot more care into the design.
MVacs, I had actually considered contacting you years ago about that! Funds wouldn't allow now, but thank you very much for the offer and I will keep it in mind. Likewise, If there are any machines or parts you need, assuming I can source them, I would gladly help. Thanks again!
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"just seems like the designers put a lot more care into the design."
And build quality!
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Indeed!
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One thing I have noticed about the older British dysons is that they have a very different feel to them than the newer ones. Can't really put it into words, just seems like the designers put a lot more care into the design.
You are right. The ones James Dyson actually had a hand in were the classics.
MVacs, I had actually considered contacting you years ago about that! Funds wouldn't allow now, but thank you very much for the offer and I will keep it in mind. Likewise, If there are any machines or parts you need, assuming I can source them, I would gladly help. Thanks again!
Thanks for the reciprocity! ;D
Likewise, I will help out any US based collector that is a regular contributor on the forum here in case of need in any way I can.
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You are right. The ones James Dyson actually had a hand in were the classics.
They just seem to have a lot of simple, yet well thought out and useful features aside from their trademark dual cyclones. Such as the way the dc02 sits on stairs and has easy access filters that greet you the moment you open it up. They seem less formulaic than the new ones, if that makes any sense.
Off topic, would anyone be interested in seeing some pictures of a dc02 side by side with the American fantom lightning? I won't be back home for a while (a few weeks) but can do it then. I thought it might be interesting.
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Defiantly
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Same here! Be as geeky as you want, I've never seen a yank dc02 up close!
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Weren't they Canadian not American?
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I heard that no part of a DC02 and Fantom Lightning are identical :/
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They were made in Canada, but sold best in the U.S.
They are very different inside, but the changes made to the original molds by fantom are easy to see and interesting.
Glad to hear there is an interest, had the idea a while ago but wasn't sure if anyone would really care. I will do it next time I go home, probably about two weeks.
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Doesn't this machine clog its filters up horrifically? Like all the dirt comes out of the cyclone and clogs the (very expensive) filters by design? Sure I read about that for one of the fantom machines...
This thread has drifted a tad hasnt it!
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One of them did but can't remember which, I did post an article about them, might even be on this three.
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All of the fantoms clogged their post filters much more than necessary. This one is no exception. The inner cyclone is smaller and crappier than the dc02 one, plus there is no real pre motor filter, rather just a metal screen. If you think builders dust kills dysons.....
Back on topic ;D, I'm surprised no one has voted for any of the newer cylinders. I had another dc39 a while ago and thought it's performance was impressive.
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Back on topic ;D, I'm surprised no one has voted for any of the newer cylinders. I had another dc39 a while ago and thought it's performance was impressive.
Just wondering, are you "FantomLightning" on YouTube? ;D
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Nope, never had the time to make any decent videos. Wish I did though! I have a lot I would like to share.
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I don't use my Dyson very often, but it's a lovely Vacuum... DC40 ;)
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I don't use my Dyson very often, but it's a lovely Vacuum... DC40 ;)
Good job you don't own the older version of the DC40! Horrible machine
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Good job you don't own the older version of the DC40! Horrible machine
I have the 2014 one ;)
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I know ;D That's the good type- September 2014 models onwards
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What's so bad about the other ones then? :D
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Well they only came out in 2012 and I lost count of how many I seen with blown up motors already (including mine) and the performance is crap, despite having similar suction to a DC25.
The DC40 is a vacuum designed for normal houses but they use the tiny crappy DC24 brush motor! How will that cope :| Seen a lot of DC40's with faulty heads too. I believe the new DC40 ERP models have the same ones as the DC41 now because the brush motor housing looks a bit bigger?
A DC25 is 999999 billion times better than the old style DC40's ;D
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It's all good ;)
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As a Hoover I like the DC27 best though its tricky to work on.
However they are on the same vote as the crappy plastic DC33 so I refrain from voting :biglaugh:
Overall the DC07 and DC14 are hard to beat for ease of maintenance and performance.
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dc01 to use
dc07 to deep clean
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I've had a DC08 for years and like it a lot - except for the contact head hose, and Dyson's failure to provide a solution to the problem of cracking.
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I've had a DC08 for years and like it a lot - except for the contact head hose, and Dyson's failure to provide a solution to the problem of cracking.
You can get different heads for your DC08 if the contact head annoys you :icon_nod:
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You can get different heads for your DC08 if the contact head annoys you :icon_nod:
Thanks - I now use the turbo head, which I've always liked and is simple to maintain - but the contact head still annoys me! :'(
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You can get a DC19 flat out head to fit your DC08 :) It's really thin and goes under low furniture, works really good. My uncle had one on his DC19 but upgraded to a turbine head due to having medium pile carpet everywhere
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The flat out head is fantastic, goes under washing machines etc.
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Thanks - I'll check it out. ;)
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Hi there,
I am a repairer in Australia and my favourite is definately the DC08. It is so easy to pull apart and the shops sold tons of them here so they are a great source of income for me.
I like the DC04 for reliability though they are rock solid. :icon_nod:
Agh man you on YouTube isnt it?
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DC04 Easily for me!
My De Stijl has to be my favourite and the best performing out of my DC04 and my half dead DC07
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Chuck in a DC17 option?
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Saw it under dc14 sorry :underchair:
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DC07 - classic Dyson with probably the best root cyclone.
DC17 - most powerful and solid dyson.
DC15 - really enjoy how it mavourveres around, no heavier than the Big Ball Animal really.
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The DC15 is very good I agree! I just don't like the wobbly cleaner heads lol