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Title: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GrumpyMan on March 28, 2017, 03:55:06 am
Hi everyone here is a look @ my DC50, enjoy.

Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 28, 2017, 09:20:05 am
Very nice

I like the DC50, a pretty good and reliable machine for a miniature thing with a load of features. My cousin and cousin in law have one like yours but in orange, it's almost 2 years old with no problems so far. :thumbsup: They have 2 cats as well
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 28, 2017, 05:28:22 pm
Very nice

I like the DC50, a pretty good and reliable machine for a miniature thing with a load of features. My cousin and cousin in law have one like yours but in orange, it's almost 2 years old with no problems so far. :thumbsup: They have 2 cats as well

Well, Mr Parwaz, this is where we must disagree.

I purchased one of these (in bad shape, I admit) and I have to say I despise the design.  It's flimsy, overly complicated and engineered by a madman with CAD.  The replacement parts are way overpriced and the darn brush bar became the consumable since there is no belt.  They also took the razor approach to cyclone tiers - JUST ADD MORE!  :biglaugh:

Also (and this is specific to the one's I've seen listed on craigslist), people seem to think they're powerhouses when they're a lightweight machine at best.  I spent a good 3 hours pulling mashed dog hair out of crevices in the head I didn't know could hold that much hair.  I removed yarn, a piece of wood and a whole lot of sand.  Who vacuums sand with a $400 vacuum?

Oh, all this and it was $400 new.

End of Rant.   :whist11: ;D
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Madrat on March 28, 2017, 05:47:33 pm
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It's flimsy, overly complicated and engineered by a madman with CAD.  The replacement parts are way overpriced

This applies to all dyson's from the dc33 onwards.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 28, 2017, 05:50:05 pm
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It's flimsy, overly complicated and engineered by a madman with CAD.  The replacement parts are way overpriced

This applies to all dyson's from the dc33 onwards.
Well, you're right.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 28, 2017, 08:05:16 pm
I think they are more reliable than the DC24, they clean better,  look better etc;)
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 28, 2017, 09:05:09 pm
I think they are more reliable than the DC24, they clean better,  look better etc;)

I have no significant experience with the 24.  My main usage has been with the 14 and 33.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Elgin on March 28, 2017, 10:27:32 pm
As much as I like the DC50 and think they are pretty good for just basic, small area: dust collecting machine.
But my uncle also had the DC50 Animal - note Animal, one piece of dog hair into it and it needs a full stripdown again - and i'm not exaggerating. I mean its supposed ro be the Animal model, when it cant take in dog hair. My old DC07 could suck in tonnes and tonnes of pieces of massive paper - A3 sized paper. DC50 cant take a blooming dog hair...
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GrumpyMan on March 29, 2017, 01:37:32 am
You are right about the DC50 being flimsy, I still have guarantee left on mine but thankfully never had to use it. It's working fine.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 29, 2017, 03:21:34 pm
The reason why it feels flimsy i because the flexible plastic absorbs shock. For example when it's dropped, it's gonna flex rather than snap. "Solid" feeling vacuums like Vax may feel strong, but are actually not as strong as a newer Dyson ball. Drop  a vax down the stairs and I can guarantee there will be some damage.

If you try and bend the solid feeling plastic on a vax, it would snap

Dyson plastic would flex slightly. It's not about using the toughest material, it's about using the right material ;) Hence why you see less physically broken Dysons than we did in the 1990s and 2000s
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 29, 2017, 03:30:07 pm
The reason why it feels flimsy i because the flexible plastic absorbs shock. For example when it's dropped, it's gonna flex rather than snap. "Solid" feeling vacuums like Vax may feel strong, but are actually not as strong as a newer Dyson ball. Drop  a vax down the stairs and I can guarantee there will be some damage.

If you try and bend the solid feeling plastic on a vax, it would snap

Dyson plastic would flex slightly. It's not about using the toughest material, it's about using the right material ;) Hence why you see less physically broken Dysons than we did in the 1990s and 2000s

There may be alot of truth to this.  That said, my wife dropped the DC14 down the basement stairs onto the concrete and only a small piece of the pre filter door and the cord wind hook on the bottom broke.... not bad, really.

My parents are flying up from Florida.  I'm going to try to send them home with the DC50 in their suitcase.  We'll see if it makes it!  :))
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Madrat on March 29, 2017, 04:44:37 pm
There are a lot of old dysons around that disprove your theory Parwaz and a lot of new broken ones that also disprove it.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 29, 2017, 04:51:21 pm
That's true, but I just think the newer ones are more smash resistant ;)
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: MVacs on March 29, 2017, 05:45:17 pm
That's true, but I just think the newer ones are more smash resistant ;)

DC40/41s are so flimsy and poor quality that we break them all for spares as I dont want the headache of having to put a warranty on one. Almost every one we have sold has had issues - why we stopped doing them.

Yet we still service older machines we sold recon 8-9 years ago.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Madrat on March 29, 2017, 05:54:35 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: RustySkull on March 29, 2017, 05:55:46 pm
Somehow I missed this when you uploaded it, never mind... Nice :)
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: MVacs on March 29, 2017, 06:00:11 pm
But my uncle also had the DC50 Animal - note Animal, one piece of dog hair into it and it needs a full stripdown again - and i'm not exaggerating. I mean its supposed ro be the Animal model, when it cant take in dog hair. My old DC07 could suck in tonnes and tonnes of pieces of massive paper - A3 sized paper. DC50 cant take a blooming dog hair...

Indeed, the DC50 does have a design fault (https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/topic,1143.msg4734.html#msg4734) in our opinion.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 29, 2017, 06:03:55 pm
But my uncle also had the DC50 Animal - note Animal, one piece of dog hair into it and it needs a full stripdown again - and i'm not exaggerating. I mean its supposed ro be the Animal model, when it cant take in dog hair. My old DC07 could suck in tonnes and tonnes of pieces of massive paper - A3 sized paper. DC50 cant take a blooming dog hair...

Indeed, the DC50 does have a design fault (https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/topic,1143.msg4734.html#msg4734) in our opinion.

I can attest to this.  The one I bought had "poor suction" which was a result of a very blocked cyclone (which also smelled like gym socks and wet dog :sick0012: ) and yarn blocking the anemic inlet.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: mrdyson on March 29, 2017, 06:05:45 pm
In my experience, the only way the DC50 cyclone gets blocked is when customers ignore the 'max' mark on the waste bin.

We have a DC50 for use upstairs at home which has been in used for over 3 years and it's never got blocked.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: MVacs on March 29, 2017, 06:18:26 pm
We have a DC50 for use upstairs at home which has been in used for over 3 years and it's never got blocked.

I think it's a question of usage. Folk like us on here who understand the machine's limitations in that it's a light duty machine will likely have no issues. The problem is that Dyson marketed them as an all round family machine suitable for those with multiple kids, dogs, etc. And they are not really up to that. People bring DC50s into us for service blocked solid, and when you look at their usage, they should really have a decent full size machine like a DC14/33 or a Sebo X4. Conversation reveals that they bought an "Animal" as they have three labradors.  :underchair:

Look at the Dyson Medic blog post on the subject (http://dysonmedic.co.uk/dyson-dc50-blocked-hissing-not-picking-up/), 90 replies from folks whose DC50 hissing/blocked issue was solved. And that must be a drop in the ocean.

We have took a few almost new DC50s off people in PX for a full size machine.
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 29, 2017, 06:57:52 pm
Gdgd, our DC41 Mk2 is 13 months old now, it's been good, I can get on with the DC50 as I quite like them. I just dislike the DC40 for their wiring loom constantly bending in a U turn, the bin entry being too narrow, the front cleaner head lock and just how short the cable and hose is even though it can take a longer hose and cable :/
 
Title: Re: Dyson Plastic
Post by: Elgin on March 29, 2017, 09:54:37 pm
I Don't see many DC04's with broken plastic, mainly just the wand, or someones cut the flippin cyclone handle off
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: Elgin on March 29, 2017, 09:56:47 pm
We have a DC50 for use upstairs at home which has been in used for over 3 years and it's never got blocked.

I think it's a question of usage. Folk like us on here who understand the machine's limitations in that it's a light duty machine will likely have no issues. The problem is that Dyson marketed them as an all round family machine suitable for those with multiple kids, dogs, etc. And they are not really up to that. People bring DC50s into us for service blocked solid, and when you look at their usage, they should really have a decent full size machine like a DC14/33 or a Sebo X4. Conversation reveals that they bought an "Animal" as they have three labradors.  :underchair:

Look at the Dyson Medic blog post on the subject (http://dysonmedic.co.uk/dyson-dc50-blocked-hissing-not-picking-up/), 90 replies from folks whose DC50 hissing/blocked issue was solved. And that must be a drop in the ocean.

We have took a few almost new DC50s off people in PX for a full size machine.

Funny you should say about Labradors and the DC50 Animals,
My uncle has a DC50 Animal, and the second he picks up i dunno mabey 10-12 pieces of hair off his labrador (Jasper) it needs a full stripdown again... Why call it animal if it cannot cope with hair, may aswell be called Non-Animal
Title: Re: My Dyson DC50 animal
Post by: GrumpyMan on March 30, 2017, 04:39:07 am
My DC07 now that is a strong vacuum, we've dropped that many times but till date it's still going. The DC50 when you finish vacuuming and put it upright if you don't get it right it  collapses. I forgot to mention that in my video. But we still love it the suction is excellent!
Title: Re: Dyson Plastic
Post by: GeorgeJ on March 30, 2017, 03:03:18 pm
or someones cut the flippin cyclone handle off

WHAT?  :chuckle: :boggleeye: