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Title: Goblin Commander S
Post by: beko1987 on December 24, 2014, 01:59:38 AM
I found this machine languishing as SWMBO's friends mums spare vac! Said friend had it whilst I changed a broken cable on her DC04, and asked if I could refurbish it. These are VERY rare, rarer than I thought going by comments given! Me, I just see it as a cool old vacuum. Said comments allured to the designer of this machine being previously employed by Hoover, and designed the Turbopower 1, arguably my most favourite machine (I know  :underchair:_

Anyway, one thing led to another, and in late November it came home to be rescued!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aEa1gzQH8MY/VJn5ZMI1L3I/AAAAAAAAgYE/qcBcGGF2nQo/s512/IMAG2509.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2f3Gvqyg18I/VJn5c9MRF3I/AAAAAAAAgYM/zDkklqaTlAQ/s800/IMAG2510.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hQKZ24XMttQ/VJn5j119BYI/AAAAAAAAgYU/rkOBVV_5dAM/s800/IMAG2511.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11WrxNKTiY&list=UUv0y2E43HyJMX85p-Wxro0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11WrxNKTiY&list=UUv0y2E43HyJMX85p-Wxro0Q)

It's not without it's faults:

The brushroll (unobtanium) is VERY worn
Belt was comical, I could stop the brushroll with my finger
Handle is cracked at the top, with previous glue there before
Bag has a few worn corners sadly
Rear wheels are quite worn internally

However, the poor thing looked like s :censored:t, and I was intregued, and being so rare I'll probably never see another one, so let's find out!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YjOiGPnCvUk/VII96J82LqI/AAAAAAAAgI4/8hSuF5ksUrM/s512/IMAG2513.jpg)

Luckily the bag top isn't broken, just untucked!

But then, what's this?

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OBYp0mEoroQ/VII98I2B1yI/AAAAAAAAgJA/7CgnK_DkuqQ/s800/IMAG2514.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OnE1894Lq2I/VII9-XJ9bpI/AAAAAAAAgJI/zvdwPvX3unc/s800/IMAG2516.jpg)

Lol

My car at the height of it's popularity! (Well, a lesser car than mine, I have a Volcane TD)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9zDZc61Isfs/VII-AVwJhiI/AAAAAAAAgJQ/PA4dNqA8rZk/s512/IMAG2517.jpg)

10k for a boggo one!

Was hiding nothing, just packing it out for reasons I'm not too sure of

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-arJfHwEZq6Y/VII-CH7uQDI/AAAAAAAAgJY/au6-kKhdLo4/s800/IMAG2515.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XcDtta2cO0o/VII-D-k0vEI/AAAAAAAAgJg/7rJ600H2p9o/s800/IMAG2518.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dYk04jq9LW4/VII-F-DS6XI/AAAAAAAAgJo/jcfHB49v4E8/s800/IMAG2519.jpg)

WTF...

Was blocked solid

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NH09eqsHUIE/VII-HtFLZMI/AAAAAAAAgJw/DENsJ7ReEm0/s800/IMAG2520.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UKkFEShflmg/VII-J-kghPI/AAAAAAAAgJ4/YbP4QJBIv5k/s800/IMAG2521.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aIFVra_ZC8Y/VII-LdXOLnI/AAAAAAAAgKA/zKAinc_vvV8/s800/IMAG2522.jpg)

It's a shame about the brushroll, still, it's the best I've got!

I popped the hood

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CKMUoaoQSGw/VII-NCENcQI/AAAAAAAAgKI/-p6L9cOdxyw/s800/IMAG2523.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z_f6OwyOWLo/VII-O-6LASI/AAAAAAAAgKQ/urra9KGgYQA/s800/IMAG2524.jpg)

Spring reference

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XVfBRx2rSBE/VII-QOqDY9I/AAAAAAAAgKY/DFcuAeu4g_g/s800/IMAG2525.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lkPXvI7N1CI/VII-RpgfsdI/AAAAAAAAgKg/iRW8oldKY0g/s512/IMAG2526.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-362wD2vx4xk/VII-TYYP1nI/AAAAAAAAgKo/y0i2HFybG6c/s512/IMAG2527.jpg)

I pulled the bumper off

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AVK6LKMPBgA/VII-WPtYgcI/AAAAAAAAgKw/CuCA3SXRbIk/s512/IMAG2528.jpg)

And moved onto the handle

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vrqDQ0JW3x0/VII-X03UUpI/AAAAAAAAgK4/nLuNccepm_Y/s800/IMAG2529.jpg)

As well as the original bolt, there are 5 machine screws holding this together, I see it's had problems before!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m3LLVg5jiiI/VII-Zo7EGvI/AAAAAAAAgLA/-CwcDuvYFHE/s800/IMAG2530.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2no_7m9htQI/VII-bhFSRRI/AAAAAAAAgLI/gWVOUfOeBNE/s512/IMAG2531.jpg)

A reference shot of the wiring

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9e_7GnCluTQ/VII-dGKKqYI/AAAAAAAAgLQ/DNLWwYWLylw/s800/IMAG2532.jpg)

The motor pulls out rather un-gentlemanly, but once out it's out!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zHcEn_8HcdY/VII-gO6QrVI/AAAAAAAAgLg/XwrU4OGgTNQ/s800/IMAG2534.jpg)

The handle release mechanism comes out. I thought it was broken, it turns out it's not (although its very worn), just missing a spring

Onto the motor

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iayjQSCMiZg/VII-p3wbjeI/AAAAAAAAgMI/QSKx1iG3Ypw/s800/IMAG2539.jpg)

Fan wasn't broken luckily

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9Of3v30rzhk/VII-ri8coZI/AAAAAAAAgMQ/xo53Opw0srw/s800/IMAG2540.jpg)

Fan off

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bYVDYob0Hh0/VII-tUNP3LI/AAAAAAAAgMY/cTkDKHfqeqA/s800/IMAG2541.jpg)

Pictures jump a bit sadly, but the 3 screws hiding under the fan release the motor, then I took the top off! 3 screws on the side, unplug the carbon brush wires and the top comes off

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8RHFoRRRxIo/VII-vdJ2W8I/AAAAAAAAgYc/BV8U9pagqpQ/s800/IMAG2542.jpg)

Carbons are good

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--p2UEjk2HrI/VII-xRdqD9I/AAAAAAAAgMo/bG3r8jefEZA/s800/IMAG2543.jpg)

Motor was full of hair

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-emm0YigXal8/VII-zriYOnI/AAAAAAAAgMw/zAFn2Wi9tcw/s800/IMAG2544.jpg)

I had a go at getting the coil out but it's crimped in, so left it alone. I drizzled some oil into the bearings which did work well tbh

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eMpMwHpzHIA/VII-1RYX93I/AAAAAAAAgM4/anz4O6Et2aA/s800/IMAG2545.jpg)

Luzzed the motor back together and finished the bag

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6KWcqm48TFo/VII-3luOMaI/AAAAAAAAgNA/3mZ6E_ROjnU/s800/IMAG2546.jpg)

Everything was then washed and dried, and polished where needed

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rj7l9fY5gUk/VJn2DNcovRI/AAAAAAAAgUo/_23JRHoKdQ0/s512/IMAG2593.jpg)

There should be a spring under here. Luckily a random spring, possibly from a Dyson fitted in perfectly and now the handle lock works!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YArZU2Jgo2E/VJn2GbhXUDI/AAAAAAAAgU4/1AaZ_JNDl30/s800/IMAG2597.jpg)

Motor back onto the fancase

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JocGl1PSR1g/VJn2IWR-E4I/AAAAAAAAgVA/3mMhre_cOds/s800/IMAG2598.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZuHhy9qPvLk/VJn2J7IXZ6I/AAAAAAAAgVI/irBMG09l9ng/s800/IMAG2599.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eWQe3z5lvoQ/VJn2LqA-FsI/AAAAAAAAgVQ/atfOJ2kbFfA/s800/IMAG2600.jpg)

I cleaned the wire a bit before it was fitted, and fitted it!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gvGHWtqryro/VJn2NB17LaI/AAAAAAAAgVY/V4qRFtGM_y4/s800/IMAG2601.jpg)

Nice clean motor back in

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-olNV0ngn0SE/VJn2Oo3579I/AAAAAAAAgVg/d8Nk82fpSlA/s800/IMAG2602.jpg)

I decided to quickly fire her up to check...


nothing...

 :censored:

There then followed a week of trying everything I could think of, checking all cable joints, checking the cable by wiring it onto the 652, ask a fellow collector with a commander s for a pic of his wiring, bombarded another collector with tons of questions!

have a pretty picture of the coil assembly

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kiznPpBQT-w/VJn2QUHo_1I/AAAAAAAAgVo/WaCL4k6uJyM/s800/IMAG2603.jpg)

Double, triple, doubted myself and checked the wiring again!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pYlvMFyvl8Y/VJn2R0b2CKI/AAAAAAAAgVw/dC3CLRRd0Tw/s800/IMAG2604.jpg)

Someone elses Commander s to check my sanity

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bPazP9z2ykQ/VJn2TJeyIZI/AAAAAAAAgV4/07h2_zvA9_w/s512/IMG-20141211-WA0000.jpg)

Eventually, I took it to my stepdad who ran his multimeter over it, and detected one side of the coil was dead... After looking at the coil assembly and noting only the 4 top tags hold it in, I borrowed a vice, small screwdriver and hammer, and tapped the locks out, and with a bit of levering, with only a slight bit of damage the coil came out! The issue was quickly spotted

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fCz1E6kIAQ0/VJn2Uv67o_I/AAAAAAAAgWA/kxUFDx8DMmU/s800/IMAG2640.jpg)

Where I'd buggared about trying to remove it before I caught the internal fan on the coil. Other side looked worse but had continuity so left it alone

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pjrFeNInK4c/VJn2WIqSe6I/AAAAAAAAgWI/0mPtje_QDlU/s800/IMAG2641.jpg)

Some soldering later, this VERY lunchtime I went over, and lashed it together...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhN6pMHO3Nw&list=UUv0y2E43HyJMX85p-Wxro0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhN6pMHO3Nw&list=UUv0y2E43HyJMX85p-Wxro0Q)

Yeey! So tonight I put it back together

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OUJC5GlE9Oo/VJn2Z8h22nI/AAAAAAAAgWY/RF0YtQltsYo/s800/IMAG2647.jpg)

Motor wired in again!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mqU97fj2cVo/VJn2bd6wX6I/AAAAAAAAgWg/QKde9VDZBYg/s800/IMAG2648.jpg)

Since the motor was in anyway, I put the bumper on the hood and the hood on the vac!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-THKRhCiR7m8/VJn2c8j-WLI/AAAAAAAAgWo/LjzPYJsWpkQ/s800/IMAG2649.jpg)

I had some belts that someone said would fit

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yuLy8_etPJU/VJn2enCevXI/AAAAAAAAgWw/qriCNy2DPOA/s800/IMAG2650.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SzkihJGC9xI/VJn2nezrAWI/AAAAAAAAgXY/hF34qkO_HPg/s800/IMAG2655.jpg)

It fitted well. Gave the brushroll ends a lick of grease and fitted that too

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZZcxYE680e8/VJn2gFYQcJI/AAAAAAAAgW4/1gwv_dL4DZc/s800/IMAG2651.jpg)

Baseplate on

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-supPFBC_u-8/VJn2hyk8SHI/AAAAAAAAgXA/x7lmRhYASjA/s800/IMAG2652.jpg)

Put the handle back together

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9cNdfVjmyYI/VJn2jlYoNVI/AAAAAAAAgXI/YLLq94NJ9ww/s512/IMAG2653.jpg)

The damage on the handle top. I did try to glue it up sympathetically but I put one initial tweak on the screw and it went again, but didnt get any worse whislt I nipped the screw fully up so it can stay!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-awN0Nkm54Zo/VJn2lElmDmI/AAAAAAAAgXQ/NkZYRa242ho/s800/IMAG2654.jpg)

The bag was re-assembled and fitted

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FmeurX0nDHc/VJn2o_qkFhI/AAAAAAAAgXg/2wmZOV7fYhI/s512/IMAG2657.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b1T05mjUDOY/VJn2qXjVj9I/AAAAAAAAgXo/BPEyEBKpORg/s512/IMAG2658.jpg)

Only joking, she stands now!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-27tobK1u2d8/VJn2r3xJ06I/AAAAAAAAgXw/LfRp1d7TSjo/s800/IMAG2659.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7qzyX7a_c8o/VJn2tUp3e-I/AAAAAAAAgX4/YfTmCoSev2w/s512/IMAG2656.jpg)

Jobs left to do:

Test it tomorrow
wait for the bags to arrive off ebay that I bought today...
clean the cable fully, it looks really shit now!
Title: Re: Goblin Commander S
Post by: Madrat on December 25, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
Well done  :tiphat:  I can't believe how few Goblins are left now  :(  Friend had a tiny Goblin rio cylinder, it was fantastic.
Title: Re: Goblin Commander S
Post by: MVacs on December 25, 2014, 02:45:09 AM
That crack should fix with Evo Pipe Weld.

What age would that be? Late 70's?
Title: Re: Goblin Commander S
Post by: beko1987 on December 25, 2014, 09:40:53 AM
Ah I would fix it but as its not mine, didn't. Well, slight lie, I did dribble a bit of glue into the cracks which fixed it right up until I nipped the handle screws up whereby it split again...

Was only a vanity project really, the owner is having it back when fully finished, although she did express an interest in selling it, have had a surprising amount of interest already, seems a lot of parts are unobtanium, which this machine has!

70's?, nah, early 90s. Came before the more popular Laser uprights. Its not done bad for a 60 boggo plastivac of its day!

Another thing I did notice was the shopvac logo is moulded into some of the housing parts. Must have been built under licence!