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Title: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 06, 2018, 06:59:47 PM
Dyson’s all-powerful Cyclone V10 makes corded vacuums obsolete.

The new Dyson Cyclone V10 has a digital motor that spins 2,000 times a second and can even adjust its power depending on the altitude in which it is being used

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James Dyson has announced that he has “stopped developing corded vacuums”, having first brought his DA 001 upright to market back in 1993. The reason, according to the company, is that it has finally managed to produced a cordless, handheld vacuum cleaner that is more powerful than the traditional wired versions - thus making them obsolete.

The £500 Dyson Cyclone V10 has 20 percent more suction power than its predecessor, the Dyson V8. The new digital motor developed for the V10 is also almost half the weight of the previous iteration, spinning at up to 125,000rpm. It’s this speed that let’s Dyson claim the V10 has “full-size suction power”, but with that portability and convenience of the cord-free form.

Some 14 cyclones in the V10 are arranged around the central axis of the product, allowing the airflow inside each cyclone to travel at up to 120 miles per hour, in the process generating over 79,000G, which allows the vacuum to supposedly separate microscopic dust from the air.

However, as most households that already have a cordless vacuum know all too well, you cannot use these machines to clean an entire house or large flat before the power drains. So many choose to have both a cordless vacuum as well as a traditional upright for whole-house cleaning. With the V10, Dyson’s engineers apparently wanted to deliver not only the extra power to make uprights unnecessary, but also extend the battery runtime to combat this usage issue. As a result, a more energy-dense, but lighter battery pack allegedly gives the new Dyson Cyclone V10 a maximum of 60 minutes cleaning power before needing a recharge.

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The updated design created new problems, too, as the new motor also needed a light, strong shaft that was able to cope with the 125,000rpm speeds. So ceramic was used, cured at 1,600 degrees Celsius to be three times harder than steel, but only half the density.

Perhaps the cleverest feature of the V10 is its ability to know the current altitude in which it is being used. The V10’s digital motor continually adjusts to maintain its best performance according to altitude, the barometric pressure and temperature. Dyson claims its is so smart the vacuum could as a result “even work out the current weather”.

The V10’s built-in pressure sensors are apparently sensitive enough to not only know if it is being used upstairs or downstairs, but also whether it is vacuuming your table top or your floor. For a product that primarily sucks air, inevitably air pressure will effect performance, yet Dyson claims that the V10 will “will give the same high performance whether you are in a high altitude city like Mexico City and Denver, or a low-lying city like Amsterdam”.

Dyson sold its first cord-free vacuum, the handheld DC-16 in 2006, and last year surpassed the manufacture of 100m machines. The company also has something of a stronghold on the vacuum market in the UK, claiming more than half of British homes owning at least one Dyson machine, while half of all cord-free vacuums sold is a Dyson.

Speaking about the big decision for the company to halt developing corded vacuums, James Dyson said: "Yes, it's scary. We could be completely wrong. I just believe that this is the way to go."

Source (http://www.wired.co.uk/article/dyson-cyclone-v10).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPmA1PfaOXg

Video: The Dyson V10 Cordless Vacuum. The Evolution and Prototype Models from the Paris Launch
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 06, 2018, 07:00:01 PM
REVIEW: DYSON CYCLONE V10 ABSOLUTE

A powerful and versatile (but expensive) cordless vacuum.

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Like the smartphone or the television, the cordless stick vacuum is one of those products that has already arrived at something close to its ideal form. Dyson, the leading brand name in household products that suck or blow with vigor, standardized its signature take on the handheld cleaning machine about ten years ago. Centered around a brushless digital motor connected to a clear canister that can accept various attachments, that same design has prevailed ever since. We've only seen incremental improvements to the blueprint.

The new Dyson V10, announced today, has all of the expected enhancements: a more powerful motor, a more efficient battery, and a larger bin than the preceding V8. (Like Apple with the iPhone and Microsoft with Windows, Dyson's marketing department skipped 9 and jumped straight to 10. At least they didn't go with "X.") But the company went a little deeper with its remix this time, tweaking the design in ways that make it measurably better.

Dyson sent me a vacuum to test, and it performs admirably. I can recommend it, but only if you can stomach the price, which ranges from $500 to $700 depending on which model you buy. As with all things Dyson, the V10 breeds sticker shock. But also as with all things Dyson, you get what you pay for, and this thing kicks ass.

Roller Derby

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The most noticeable change here is in the shape of the handheld "brain" of the device. The motor, which used to sit perpendicular with the dust bin, has been swung 90 degrees to sit inline with the bin and the suction tube. This design makes for a more efficient motor, but it also redistributes the weight above the handle so the vacuum is easier to hold. Dyson also swapped the old steel spinning shaft for a stiffer and lighter ceramic shaft. The new motor can spin at 125,000 RPMs, or just over 2,000 times per second.

The battery pack seemingly grows smaller and more powerful with every version of the V-series vacuums. The V10's battery provides an impressive full hour of vacuuming time per charge. That's up from 40 minutes in the V8. A row of lights on the battery tells you how much of a charge is left, and there are lights to tell you if the suction passageway is blocked and whether the filter is working properly. When the filter warning lights up, it's either time to take the filter out and rinse it clean, or you just forgot to put the filter back in. (Which, in my house, happens all the time.)

The bin is 40 percent bigger, at least on the two premium versions of the V10; the cheapest V10 uses the old bin size. There's also a new mechanism inside the bin for pushing debris into the trash. It's a little red lever that you press toward the floor. It scrapes the dust and dirt down from the upper part of the bin where your fingers can't reach.

Finally, a new motorhead has been designed for the V10 line. It looks like a standard motorhead with a spinning, bristled drum, but it has a red switch in the front. Slide the switch one way, and two small gaps in the leading edge of the head open up, letting you suck up larger pieces of junk like bits of cereal, clumps of potting soil, or shattered tortilla chips. Slide it the other way and those gaps close. With the soft rubber foot at the back of the head pressing down against the floor, you get a suction boost from shutting those front vents.

Push Alert

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There's very little the V10 can't pick up. In my tests—conducted on polished concrete, burl carpet, and a sealed kitchen floor—the vac was able to sweep up all of the common crumbs and dirt I put down for it. When I used it to clean the WIRED cafeteria after lunch hour, cracks and seams in the floor were spotless after just two passes of the motorhead. It even picked up paperclips, pennies, and, on the "Max" setting, a handful of wingnuts.

There are three models to pick from. The entry-level Cyclone V10 Motorhead ($499) has the current-size bin and comes with the bare minimum of attachments, but you get the new motorhead with the toggle switch on the front. The Cyclone V10 Animal ($599) is the model pet owners should consider, since in addition to the new motorhead, you get Dyson's small cleaner head with spinning bristles for picking up cat and dog hair off couches, curtains, and upholstered chairs. This is also the first model to comes with the new larger dust bin. The deluxe model, the $699 Cyclone V10 Absolute, comes with all the attachments. You get the new motorhead, the spinning brush for pet hair, all the standard tools, plus the Dyson's fluffy roller head for hard flooring.

I used that fluffy head on the polished concrete floor, and it did a decent job of vacuuming up crumbs, but it doesn't generate as much power as the more traditional motorhead. Dyson tells me this fluffy head doesn't need frequent cleaning, but when I used it on the kitchen's faux-wood floors, it got grody pretty quickly. The fluffy drum pops out for easy washing, but it takes about a day to dry completely.

Rare Change

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All of these new V10 vacs can be purchased starting today at Dyson.com. They'll show up at Amazon, Best Buy, Target, and Bed Bath & Beyond next week.

The money Dyson charges can really make your face feel hot. I can't ignore that—even $500 is a lot to spend on a vacuum, let alone $700 for the top model—but as a person who's tested and owned several different cordless vacuums over the last 10 years, it's my opinion that there really is no match for Dyson's build quality and ease of use. The company also routinely wins customer satisfaction awards from houses like J.D. Power & Associates, and its stick vacuums boast absurdly high ratings on Amazon. So unlike anyone who bought a Juicero, most Dyson vacuum owners consider their purchase to be sound. Hey, at least you can sit on an extraordinarily clean floor while you save up for a couch.

Source (https://www.wired.com/review/dyson-cyclone-v10-absolute-cordless-vacuum/)
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: Madrat on March 06, 2018, 07:27:29 PM
So no more corded dysons?
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: nzvacs on March 07, 2018, 12:18:22 PM
Curious to see Dyson still fluffing about with the battery life stats to news outlets. This is what I got from a Dyson rep on their website.

With Motorised Head:
 - 5 minutes (High)
 - 20 minutes (Medium)
 - 35 minutes (Low)

Without Motorised Head:
 - 5 minutes (High)
 - 30 minutes (Medium)
 - 60 minutes (Low)

Considering that there are 4000mAH smartphone batteries nowadays, 2600mAH seems a bit puny.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 07, 2018, 12:24:59 PM
Curious to see Dyson still fluffing about with the battery life stats to news outlets.

Yes, the 60 minutes they are shouting about is only on low power and "up to". Based on what you posted, 30 minutes seems more realistic.

Can that be right, only five minutes on high power with the motorised head on?

So no more corded dysons?

I don't think that's the case at all. I posted one of the media articles >>here<< (https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/topic,3501.msg28883.html#msg28883) with comment.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 08, 2018, 09:29:42 PM
If you were thinking of treating yourself to one of these, our spiffy vacuum stand fits it perfectly like so:

(https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=541.0;attach=20131;image)

And you can find those here: >>Freestanding Dyson Cordless Vacuum Stand - V6 V7 V8 V10<< (https://shop.manchestervacs.co.uk/dyson-cordless-handheld-spares/dyson-cordless-stand-v6-v7-v8-dc59)

And when you find out your old Dyson tools no longer fit, our >>Dyson V7, V8 & V10 Tool Adaptor Set<< (https://shop.manchestervacs.co.uk/dyson-cordless-handheld-spares/dyson-v8-tool-adaptor) will solve that for you.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 08, 2018, 09:48:36 PM
Curious to see Dyson still fluffing about with the battery life stats to news outlets. This is what I got from a Dyson rep on their website.

With Motorised Head:
 - 5 minutes (High)
 - 20 minutes (Medium)
 - 35 minutes (Low)

Without Motorised Head:
 - 5 minutes (High)
 - 30 minutes (Medium)
 - 60 minutes (Low)

Considering that there are 4000mAH smartphone batteries nowadays, 2600mAH seems a bit puny.

Confirmation from Dyson:

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Clearly the 60 minutes they are touting is a tad disingenuous.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: nzvacs on March 09, 2018, 11:46:40 AM
151AW? Slightly odd considering that the 'Carbon Fibre' version of the V8 has 155...

https://www.dysoncanada.ca/en-CA/vacuum-cleaners/cordless/dyson-v8/dyson-v8-carbon-fibre.aspx
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: twosixohtwo on March 16, 2018, 01:32:05 AM
Interesting stuff, it is. Looks like they made the dust cup at least a useable size, especially for people who intend to use this as a primary machine. It's definitely the best looking stick model I've seen out there.

I'm still not entirely sold on stick vacuums, but that's just me, as someone who lives in a small but carpeted place with pets and who can't justify making space for another machine just for spills (which, in my case, tend to be damp). Then again, I know plenty of others who could use an upgrade over a Swiffer. I don't think this means the end of their uprights; at least here in the States, wall-to-wall carpeting is extremely popular.

But anyway. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's concerned with Sir James declaration of no longer developing mains-powered machines. I have no doubt that battery technology is developing by leaps and bounds and we'll soon have affordable cordless full-size machines. I'm more concerned with the environmental waste, and just the general frustration of having a thousand different proprietary batteries and chargers floating around the house, especially for appliances that aren't going to be used away from an electrical outlet, anyway, and then you're stuck trying to find replacements when they've been discontinued. And don't get me started on built-in battery packs.

I'll be interested to see where they go with future product development on cleaners; it seems like they've got so many similar (or identical with different attachment kits and color ways) models that aren't clearly differentiated. What I'd really love to see is another small canister like the DC26 and 47--the pistol grip of the cordless models is nice, but really heavy and unwieldily for above-the-floor cleaning. 

I'm most intrigued by the motor technology and the new floor heads. Don't know why the digital motors never caught on in the corded machines, but you'd really have a powerhouse of an upright with one. Same with the floor heads; these fluffy brush bars seem to be really popular and I wish that was an option on the canisters.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 20, 2018, 08:52:03 PM
Dyson V10 Battery Life Test - We Review the Run Time of a Dyson Cyclone V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fu7UzGexNs

How long will the battery on a Dyson V10 last on full power? In this video we live test a Dyson V10 so you will know.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: PhieusYazria on March 21, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
I'm planning to get the Absolute model to compliment my Dyson Light Ball MultiFloor. (I really want the Fluffy head!)
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: Dyson Tech on March 22, 2018, 02:41:32 PM
Same fluffy head as on the V7 and V8 FYI.
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: Pylasosby on March 27, 2018, 12:42:24 PM
It seems to me, or on a new floorhead already there is no red switch?
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on March 27, 2018, 11:02:03 PM
It seems to me, or on a new floorhead already there is no red switch?

Better photos of the fluffy head >here< (https://shop.manchestervacs.co.uk/dyson-cordless-handheld-spares/dyson-v8-and-v7-cordless-soft-fluffy-hard-floor-head).
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: RustySkull on March 28, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
I wonder how they'll do not making new corded Vacuum's anymore...
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: Pylasosby on March 30, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
It seems to me, or on a new floorhead already there is no red switch?

Better photos of the fluffy head >here< (https://shop.manchestervacs.co.uk/dyson-cordless-handheld-spares/dyson-v8-and-v7-cordless-soft-fluffy-hard-floor-head).
I mean main motorised floorhead. On first videos and unpacking reviews it was on place - I've ordered V10 Animal, and there were no this switch
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: Parwaz7862 on March 30, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
The American V10 models have the red slider st the front whereas the UK ones don’t
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: ryevac on March 30, 2018, 09:59:19 PM
Dyson V10 Battery Life Test - We Review the Run Time of a Dyson Cyclone V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fu7UzGexNs

How long will the battery on a Dyson V10 last on full power? In this video we live test a Dyson V10 so you will know.  :thumbsup:

Did this unit on test have motorized head ?
Title: Re: Dyson Launch the New V10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner.
Post by: MVacs on May 03, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
Yes it did.