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Dyson Models => Second Generation "The Ball" Dysons. => Topic started by: autovac01 on April 05, 2016, 05:00:08 PM

Title: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: autovac01 on April 05, 2016, 05:00:08 PM
Beware this model takes a different brushroll to the standard DC50, its slightly smaller.
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 05, 2016, 07:38:59 PM
Beware this model takes a different brushroll to the standard DC50, its slightly smaller.

That explains a return we had a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 06, 2016, 03:50:28 AM
Don't know why Dyson reduced the width of the cleaner heads. The large DC41 head (same width as a DC14/07/33 head) has been reduced by an inch or two which is the same as a DC40 now, even their cinetic big balls oddly. :s
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Vacuum Cleaner House on April 06, 2016, 05:22:23 PM
I wonder if thats just in the UK then, Our dc51erp ( dc50erp ) is a Euro sourced machine and it has the same size cleaner head as the none erp version.
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Madrat on April 06, 2016, 06:19:19 PM
Perhaps its not a erp thing but just a design change  :grinn:
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 06, 2016, 07:59:21 PM
I wonder if thats just in the UK then, Our dc51erp ( dc50erp ) is a Euro sourced machine and it has the same size cleaner head as the none erp version.

I saw a photo of the two different brushrolls side by side. It was less than an inch.

Does the DC50 ERP have the slider on the front?
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 06, 2016, 08:57:41 PM
My cousin has a DC50 ERP and it has the red slider
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 06, 2016, 09:10:27 PM
I have delved and this is right. The normal one is 964705-01 and the ERP one is 966471-01. The non genuine ones are the standard one, not the ERP one. So if you need an ERP one, you need 966471-01.
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: autovac01 on April 07, 2016, 11:20:16 AM
"The non genuine ones are the standard one, not the ERP one."

I spoke to a gentleman at Q shortly after I'd unknowingly fitted their copy into an ERP, the roller seized up. I think I was polite but made it clear I was very angry.
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 07, 2016, 11:27:46 AM
I made Q aware of the difference as a result of this topic last night. One of the reps showed me a photo of two side by side a few weeks ago and asked could it be right. My reply then was all 50 brushrolls are the same as far as I knew.

Now we know all know different thanks to Autovac. And so do Q.  :icon_nod:
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MV Claire on April 07, 2016, 03:24:51 PM
We have one in for service today, we have measured the difference.

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Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: beko1987 on April 07, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
Cor look at the wear on the LHS one!
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 07, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Never have I ever seen a used Dyson with the carbon fibre in good condition, they are so soft they wear out really easily
always liked the DC50 brushroll though because it's big and beats carpets
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 07, 2016, 09:12:29 PM
Today we found out ERP motors and PCB's differ as well. Nobody has stock, so we have to convert it to standard with a motor housing too.  :'(
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 07, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Today we found out ERP motors and PCB's differ as well. Nobody has stock, so we have to convert it to standard with a motor housing too.  :'(

Hopefully they changed them to more reliable motors
I noticed that the old DC40's has a DC24 brush motor and the ERP ones use the larger DC41 mk2 motors now which I think is worth mentioning speaking of head changes   :icon_nod:
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 07, 2016, 09:59:50 PM
I noticed that the old DC40's has a DC24 brush motor and the ERP ones use the larger DC41 mk2 motors now which I think is worth mentioning speaking of head changes   :icon_nod:

40 and 41 ERP models have the same cleaner head. I assumed they had the same DC25 motor in there?
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 07, 2016, 10:26:45 PM
I noticed that the old DC40's has a DC24 brush motor and the ERP ones use the larger DC41 mk2 motors now which I think is worth mentioning speaking of head changes   :icon_nod:

40 and 41 ERP models have the same cleaner head. I assumed they had the same DC25 motor in there?

According to Dyson it has 20% more brushbar power than the original DC41 animal so I think it spins at a faster RPM and probably is more reliable , not seen any faulty yet but they have been out a year and a halfish so far
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: MVacs on April 08, 2016, 01:30:12 AM
According to Dyson it has 20% more brushbar power than the original DC41 animal

Sounds like marketing fluff. I'll strip the next one we see and see what is inside.  :icon_nod:
Title: Re: DC50 Animal ERP Brushroll
Post by: Parwaz7862 on April 08, 2016, 01:37:10 AM
According to Dyson it has 20% more brushbar power than the original DC41 animal

Sounds like marketing fluff. I'll strip the next one we see and see what is inside.  :icon_nod:



Brilliant :thumbsup: