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The DC54 is one of the newer 'Cinetic' machines that has no washable pre-filter.

The are broadly similar to many other 'ball' models of cylinder such as the DC28c, DC33c, DC37, DC38, DC39, DC46, DC47, DC48, DC49, DC52 and DC53. Cyclones can differ between models; most of the others have a washable pre-filter, but generally speaking, they are quite similar machines and share many parts. So this guide will be useful for people seeking to take one of the other models mentioned apart too.

If you don't have the correct Torx screwdrivers to do this, we have them >>here<<

So lets make a start. Off with the cyclone.......



The ball shells come off with a torx screw each side.



Like so.



Then the little steering mechanism jobby needs to be unscrewed.



As there are many screws, all differing lengths and sizes, the eagle-eyed will see we put them back in the captive hole to save confusion later on.

Now there are quite a few screws to get the main body apart. And they go in in both directions, so have a good look. The DC39 strip down topic can be referred to for more detail here, as they are the same in this regard.



So the casing comes off here and we can see the motor bucket and the post motor filter.









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Re: How To Strip Down a Dyson DC54 Cinetic Ball To Replace the Motor.
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 07:34:51 PM »
The motor bucket pops out of the post motor filter like so.



And the top is released with three clips. Observe the three rubber blocks, they just pop out and line up with slots in the motor bucket on reassembly.



And out comes the motor. This one is covered in plaster dust, which is the reason it failed (Dysons don't like plaster dust).



And a closer look tells us it is a YDK YV-16K24FB.



Now the motor in a DC39 and other similar looking cylinders is labelled YV-16K24FA. There is no difference between the two. If you need one, >>we sell them here<< and have it in stock.

The post motor filter is clogged up with plaster dust too, so we need to strip it down some more. More screws.......



And this clip must be released on each side for the cable rewind and post motor filter to come out.



You must lever the housing around the clip rather than hoping to push the clip in. There is a knack to this.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 07:48:02 PM »
Then it comes apart like so.



At which point the filter can be separated with a twist.



And here we see the wisdom of Dyson designing a machine with no pre-motor filter.  :-\



Yup. All the crud that didn't stay in the cyclone as intended, passed through the motor, clogged the post motor filter, made the motor labour as it was unable to breathe, and so it burned out.

Re-assembly, as they say, is a reverse sequence of strip down, so not a terribly hard machine to get into. Just a few bits here and there you will struggle with figuring out how they come apart until you have done it, and then you say to yourself, "Oh, like that"  :icon_nod:

As this one was clogged with plaster, we replaced the post motor filter. But it is always good practice to do so anyway. You want >>this one<<. Don't try to separate the filter from the plastic housing - it will break. You can wash them if you use a pressure washer are are careful, but they don't recommend it, and for what they cost, don't be a tightwad; just get a new one. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 07:58:50 PM »
Again, as this machine had had plaster through it, we need to take a look at the cyclone and wash it.



The outer shroud (the bit with the thin netting) of the cyclone comes off via the clips, and is peeled off like taking a tyre off a bicycle.

To strip the cyclone completely involves lots of screws inside and out, and one reason we chose not to do so was this.



You will see where the gasket between the layers is just starting to break up. Take that apart and you will need new gaskets. And nobody sells them. So you will end up with a leaky cyclone on re-assembly. So we pressure washed it and left it to dry.

After first washing, I thought some might want to have a look at these little oscillating cones Dyson talk about. They are made of rubber.







There are several layers of them going on in there. They say they don't block up, and to be fair, there were no visible blockages. Just dust prior to washing.

The cyclone cleaned up OK with the pressure washer. I see little reason to strip one of these cyclones down unless you really want to.

And that's about the size of it.  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 08:43:33 PM »
Nice to see inside of one,  and what youve discovered doesnt surprise me at all! Plaster dust kills filtered dysons,  let alone non filtered ones.

I reckon we will see alot more of this in a few years. Show the pics to the dyson rep when they next come sniffing around!
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 10:38:01 PM »
Wonderful thread! Thanks ;D
PS Are you sure the oscillating tips are rubber? I thought that aswell byut Dyson said they used a special material which they wont reveal to make them
DC14s are tanks, just need a slightly longer motor life. Do plastic parts often break on DC14s? Nope. DC41- Sexy looking futuristic and powerful machine. Just needs a better designed cleaner head wheel and cyclone clip along with a dense metal rod in the chassis.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 11:02:16 PM »
Maybe dyson will end up recalling and replacing them with filtered ones, I cant see people being very happy with a machine that costs so much and last for such a short time.

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 11:33:00 PM »
Would they shaft you over if they came round on a warranty shout and saw the plaster dust though?
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2015, 12:14:43 AM »
Unless it actually says don't vacuum up plaster dust in the destructions I cant see how they could, its a vacuum cleaner at the end of the day.

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2015, 12:24:49 AM »
True. Not read a modern dyson manual though.

Really interesting to see though. Are the cinetic tips really flexible or quite stiff. Were any clogged up?
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2015, 12:35:49 AM »
True, I haven't read one since buying the DC25.

Very interesting. Should have still included a filter though IMO

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2015, 12:38:27 AM »
We all know it would still have done the same eventually...Especially with plaster dust
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2015, 12:43:25 AM »
I've used ours for plaster dust, but always clean it and filters after and never more than half fill the bin.

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2015, 01:30:10 AM »
I used DC04, DC07, DC08, DC14, DC05 and DC24 for plaster dust and all have been fine, just had to bang the filter out.
Dyson put a sticker on the cinetic vacuums saying not to vacuum up plaster which is weird. Just do a yearly filter wash lol
PS I might get a Dyson cinetic big ball upright if I pass my GCSE's, so ya, should be alright with the 5 year warranty and just use the hell out of it then retire after 5 years, they are gonna discontinue it anyways as it's 1300W and might be recalled like Madrat mentioned.
People dont care, they would vacuum up anything cos it's a vacuum, it's made for these tasks. I wish The cinetic vacuums had a filter. Also, the direct air channel is a crap idea;

The suction coming from underneath the cyclone of the DC40/41 etc etc means that when you empty the vacuum, the gasket gets dusty and gritty. When you switch the vacuum next time, the dusty gasket gets cleaned by the suction from the motor. You dont see this on the DC14 etc because the airflow is coming from the top and there's a filter before any dirt can gt to the motor, it must touch the filter first.
DC14s are tanks, just need a slightly longer motor life. Do plastic parts often break on DC14s? Nope. DC41- Sexy looking futuristic and powerful machine. Just needs a better designed cleaner head wheel and cyclone clip along with a dense metal rod in the chassis.

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2015, 01:45:15 AM »
I think the rot set in when dyson got obsessed with balls  :D  :boggleeye:  :chuckle:

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