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Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« on: February 06, 2016, 09:37:58 PM »
As promised, here is a picture comparison between the British dyson dc02 and the Canadian Fantom lightning. I took loads of pictures this morning so this is going to be a long one. Hope its interesting to somebody!

It's going to take a long time to get them up, i'm having to manually re-size them all!   :(
First, here are some exterior shots of the main units.
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You can see that the fantom is actually a little taller than the dyson.
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You will also note the different top mold and handle designs.
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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2016, 09:51:56 PM »
Now for the guts....

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With both machines open, you can really see how much fantom messed with the internal designs.
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And this is the, uh, "pre motor filter"  :'(
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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 10:07:09 PM »
I have a LOT of pictures of the internals...

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It looks like fantom even went so far as to change the orientation of the motor!
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The internal ducting looks similar
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They also made sure the bin cradle was different enough so the bins would not be interchangeable. Sorry some of these pics are a little blurry.
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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 10:10:00 PM »
wow,  they really did start from scratch didnt they!
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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2016, 10:47:31 PM »
Well, that's all for a little while. I think I made the site mad, it's not loading my replies anymore. Will keep trying later.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 03:20:12 AM »
Wow and I thought the Dc02 was massive!

Thank you for the pictures, enjoyed seeing the differences- really appreciate it :)
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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 03:53:42 AM »
Thank you for the pictures, enjoyed seeing the differences- really appreciate it :)

Me too.

A great comparison of machines that are not as identical as we thought.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 03:56:28 AM »
Just noticed a filter cleaning reminder/light on the main body next to the bin! If that indicator works that's really cool and I am impressed with the design ;D
DC14s are tanks, just need a slightly longer motor life. Do plastic parts often break on DC14s? Nope. DC41- Sexy looking futuristic and powerful machine. Just needs a better designed cleaner head wheel and cyclone clip along with a dense metal rod in the chassis.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 04:03:43 AM »
Still got more...I have some better ones of the cyclones and the fantom's tool set. I'm having trouble posting pics though! I get the indication my pictures are uploading, then "waiting for manchestervacs.co.uk", then a blank white page!

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 04:10:44 AM »
Well, that's all for a little while. I think I made the site mad, it's not loading my replies anymore. Will keep trying later.

Please send me screenshots of any errors you have, we have *really* expensive UK hosting that is backed up on the cloud and all sorts. We pay a lot of money to ensure that this site doesn't break. Our tech support isn't 3 days later and a bloke in India on a chat screen, we have blokes called Nigel and Justin we can call up and say "Oy, fix this....."

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 05:57:18 PM »
Here are the small tools. They are vaguely similar, but also very different.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 06:00:30 PM »
And here are the cyclones, again you can see that fantom significantly changed the design.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 06:04:11 PM »
Fantom actually made some positive changes here, including a dedicated handle for the cyclone and a notch to help locate the cyclone when putting it back into the bin. Looks like they use the same release valves though.

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 09:11:25 PM »
So which performs the best?  That pre motor filter is shocking  :angryman:

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Re: Dyson dc02 and Fantom lightning pictures
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2016, 12:18:53 AM »
The wand and powerhead are unique to this machine.
The pn has a height adjustment and status light on top.

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The brushbar isn't bad, and does an okay job.

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The pn has two pedals at the back, the lower one reclines the head and the upper one releases the wand. That lower pedal is very fragile.

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The wand is all one piece, and is a bit on the heavy side. The lower neck of the wand is another weak point, often causing connection issues with the powerhead. I have found a few of these locally and every single one has been missing the powerhead. I assume it failed before the machine and was tossed.

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