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Offline duncan_a

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Have I got a clutch problem???
« on: February 03, 2018, 05:56:33 PM »
Hi
I have an ancient Dyson DC-04 (purple and pink) that has stopped picking up properly.
The 'suck' seems fine and the brush bar does rotate, but the clutch control won't rotate fully into the Auto position, so I suspect that the brush-bar may not be getting full power and may be stalling when faced with any actual work.
Is this a possible scenario?
Is this a known problem?
Is it fixable at home? (I have an adequate toolkit)
Thanks for any advice...

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 07:28:12 PM »
Does it select auto itself when the machine is reclined?

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 08:34:48 PM »
It moves about half way down towards the Auto 'spot', so whatever mechanical link exists appears not to be broken.
To be honest, I have no idea how far it moved originally - it worked superbly, so I never thought about it...

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 08:39:34 PM »
The know should be on the "on" position when the head is kicked down, if it only goes halfway then the clutch isn't engaging properly to the on position
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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 08:50:46 PM »
I don't have an 'ON' position - I have 'N' (no brush rotation), 'P' and 'D' with 'Auto' between 'P' and 'D'.
With the know set to 'P', it goes part way towards 'D' when I lean the machine into the use state, stopping about half way down the 'Auto' legend.

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 08:55:58 PM »
I would remove clutch, strip it, service and rebuild with new belts too.

after rebuilding hold the body in one hand and operate the lever with the other hand, it should clunk into place and back by hand command.
There shouldn't be any play in the operation if i remember right.
If it was assembled it can be disassembled - if we can't repair it then it probably isn't worth repairing !

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 08:59:04 PM »
I don't have an 'ON' position - I have 'N' (no brush rotation), 'P' and 'D' with 'Auto' between 'P' and 'D'.
With the know set to 'P', it goes part way towards 'D' when I lean the machine into the use state, stopping about half way down the 'Auto' legend.

"D" is the on position
DC14s are tanks, just need a slightly longer motor life. Do plastic parts often break on DC14s? Nope. DC41- Sexy looking futuristic and powerful machine. Just needs a better designed cleaner head wheel and cyclone clip along with a dense metal rod in the chassis.

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 09:05:53 PM »
OK, thanks. I hadn't realised that the clutch was actually a serviceable item. Do I have to beware of anything flying out?
Belts are cheap, so that's good news.

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 09:13:43 PM »
the external circlip can be a little awkward on the cap end.
Sam beko 1987 did a good video tutorial on this, they are quite easy to do, just dont lose any of the 3 ball bearings.

when removing the old clutch, just cut the old belts off with mr stanley first.
If it was assembled it can be disassembled - if we can't repair it then it probably isn't worth repairing !

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 09:44:07 PM »
Thanks so much for the responses...

If only all forums were this good, the world would be a much better, and happier, place!!!

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 09:53:37 PM »
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Let us know how you get on.
If it was assembled it can be disassembled - if we can't repair it then it probably isn't worth repairing !

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 11:16:26 PM »
I'll get the belts ordered and get down to it as soon as I've got my house move over with (and recovered from the experience!)
Once again, thanks...

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 12:04:50 AM »
Order a white wheel as well

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2018, 12:45:28 AM »
OK, will do - thanks...

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Re: Have I got a clutch problem???
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2018, 01:40:28 AM »
Well you have a good brand of vacuum, a good vacuum and a good forum filled with Dyson experts ;)

Let us know if you need any more help!
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